Hercules Engines

"Rick" wrote in message
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Tarver Engineering wrote:

What if the thermocouples are wired in parallel, to a totalizer?

So now you are using the "p" word as if you knew it all
along ... geez, Tarver, you are a piece of work.

Sure and Yanik already notified you of the series type thermocouple
connection.

Are you really this dense, Rick, or are you just being a little turd?

"Scet" wrote in message
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Dan, we went through this early last year I think it was and Tarver was
shown to be wrong as per normal.

No Scat, I was correct then and correct now. The only difference is that
this time the Knoyle archive troll has collapsed.

You know, that idiot detector you bought into?

Or are you a Miller archive troll sub-idiot?

"Scet" wrote in message
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Sorry Jim, but it does work.

Sorry Scat, but it does work and is how the J-52, J57 and J-75 engines were
instrumented.

What is it you do, little troll?

"Scet" wrote in message
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Yep, an averaged TIT signal on a T56.

Nope, only an idiot would devide the Total.

To devide would only increase the complexity and reduce reliability.

Are you a janitor, by any chance, Scat?

"Scet" wrote in message
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No it isn't John and you know it from the discussion we had on this
subject
last time....you were wrong then and you are wrong now.

I am still correct, the only difference is that I proved it in this thread.

You are making a fool of yourself, Scat.

(Tom Mosher) wrote in message . com...
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"Phil Miller" wrote in message
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Hey Splappy,

Do you remember this series of pronouncements;

From: "Tarver Engineering"
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.military
Subject: Do Hercules military aircraft use the same fuel as civilian
aircraft?
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:19:37 -0800
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Not really. On the T56 engine TIT = (T)urbine (I)nlet (T)empreture.

Yes really, on every jet engine TIT is Total Inlet Temperature.

Yep.

Have you considered yet, Miller, that your zero knowledge of aircraft makes
for a pretty rediculess archive troll?

Wrong numnuts.

CFM56's don't have TIT (turbine inlet temperature), they use EGT
(exhaust gas temperature).
RR Speys don't have TIT - they use ITT (interstage turbine
temperature).

Proves you don't know **** about aircraft engines or engine indicating
systems.

Tom Mosher
Senior Logistics Analyst for a MAJOR defense contractor.


or aerodynamics and flight control surfaces either !

From: "Scet"

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Dan, we went through this early last year I think it was and Tarver was
shown to be wrong as per normal. On T56 engines the thermocouples are
connected in parallel and pick up TIT, the signal is then averaged. They
are averaged due to the non-uniform temperatures that occur at the turbine
inlet due to the short time of spraying fuel from the nozzle, to fuel
ignition, to introducing the hot gasses at high velocity to the turbine
inlet. The hot gases are not completely mixed and so there are some
stratifications of hotter and cooler areas at the turbine inlet. The
temperature averaging function of the parallel thermocouple circuits
compensates for these non-uniform temperatures.

Scet


Oh, heck, and I bet I missed a bunch of tarverisms.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 1/21/2004 8:29 PM Central Standard Time
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"Scet" wrote in message
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No it isn't John and you know it from the discussion we had on this
subject
last time....you were wrong then and you are wrong now.

I am still correct, the only difference is that I proved it in this thread.

You are making a fool of yourself, Scat.

Tarver, at the risk of a barrage of filth from you, can you provide a web site
other than yours that shows TIT or EGT thermocouples in series?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

"running with scissors" wrote in
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(Tom Mosher) wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"Phil Miller" wrote in message
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Hey Splappy,

Do you remember this series of pronouncements;

From: "Tarver Engineering"
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.military
Subject: Do Hercules military aircraft use the same fuel as
civilian
aircraft?
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:19:37 -0800
snip
wrote in message
Not really. On the T56 engine TIT = (T)urbine (I)nlet
(T)empreture.

Yes really, on every jet engine TIT is Total Inlet Temperature.

Yep.

Have you considered yet, Miller, that your zero knowledge of aircraft
makes
for a pretty rediculess archive troll?

Wrong numnuts.

CFM56's don't have TIT (turbine inlet temperature), they use EGT
(exhaust gas temperature).
RR Speys don't have TIT - they use ITT (interstage turbine
temperature).

Proves you don't know **** about aircraft engines or engine indicating
systems.

Tom Mosher
Senior Logistics Analyst for a MAJOR defense contractor.


or aerodynamics and flight control surfaces either !

Considering the "Pitot Tube" discussion currently taking place in another
thread; Splapy knows nothing about "Pitot Tubes" either.

Isn't it amazing how much can be learned by following the posts of those
correcting Splapy!
Ralph Nesbitt
Professional FD/CFR/ARFF Type

Tarver, you were "totally" wrong in your original response dated Nov
8th, 2002 about T-56's and TIT. I can't speak for other motors but I
do know a T56-14 pretty well and have changed enough t-couples and
enough TIT gauges and done hundreds enough efficiency runs and
calculations to know that it is actually "Turbine Inlet Temperature".
You have since tried to tap dance around being put on the spot, too
funny! I got one for you, Mr. T-56, how can T-56 efficiencies
sometimes be measured at over 100%??? And what are the test cell
limits and the allowable differences between test cell runups and on
the wing measurements? What are the allowable differences between
flights? Ok, Mr. T-56, Lets hear your expalnation on this? How many
t-couples on a T-56 have you actually changed out? How many hours,
days etc. have you actually spent chasing an efficiency problem?

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:28:29 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
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"Scet" wrote in message
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Yep, an averaged TIT signal on a T56.

Nope, only an idiot would devide the Total.

To devide would only increase the complexity and reduce reliability.

Are you a janitor, by any chance, Scat?