Beware travelers with bratty kids

john smith wrote:
In article ,
"G. Sylvester" wrote:
I've been flying since they had fans on the front. They will always be
stews and stewardesses, just Oshkosh will always be "Oshkosh and not
Airventure
Roger - I have plenty of respect for the things you have to say but in
this case, the term is wrong. It is nonetheless common and somewhat
offensive. Kind of like calling an Asian person an Oriental. It's
wrong and offensive. In NY where I grew up, everyone called Asians as
Orientals. it wasn't until I moved to California I learned that it was
wrong. History won't make it right.
What Gerald seems to be saying is... you need to learn political
correctness.
The problem is, you don't know which of their self-appointed "leaders"
to follow.
Remember, it's not polite to offend anyone, even if they deserve it.


my god (and I'm a born-again atheist ;-) ) am I being accused of being
politically correct? There's no chance in hell that would happen. My
friends would laugh their a$$es off about that one. Anyway, this isn't
about being politically correct. After all, if you aren't friendly to
the FA's, how could possibly expect to get the pre-departure warm nuts.
Now when you are talking about the UA Red Carpet Club matrons or
dragons, that's another story. ;-) And from now on, I'm referring to
Airbus SIC's as the "assistant to the real pilot" or should that be
"assistant busdriver?"

Gerald

In article . com,
says...
My worst flight ever was a night flight from Japan to Seattle (IIRC),
in which I was pretty much surrounded by the members of a boys sports
team of some sort (hockey, I think). I was tired, and ready for sleep -
but wouldn't get any that night. Those kids were hyper - and there were
three across in the row behind me. They all had newly purchased
electronic gizmos that they played incessantly. The one behind me kept
pounding on his with his fingers. Of course it was on the tray table
(which As I pointed out to him repeatedly, was directly connected to my
seat). He couldn't keep his hands off of it. The final straw came when
one of them went to the restroom. On his return he dragged his gizmo
across my face in the process of returning to his seat. I jumped up and
made quite a scene - and finally provoked a response from their coach.

Having had enough of that scene, I went and appropriated an empty seat
in a section reserved for the crew. They tried to get me to go back,
but I told them nothing doing - if they wanted to keep the peace on
that flight, they had better leave me alone. They did.

one of them email funnies...
"The next time you find yourself on a plane, sitting next to someone who
cannot resist chattering to you endlessly, I urge you to quietly pull
your laptop out of your bag, carefully open the screen (ensuring the
irritating person next to you can see it), and hit this link:

http://www.thecleverest.com/countdown.swf
"

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Duncan

On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 21:33:46 +1300, Duncan wrote:

and hit this link:

http://www.thecleverest.com/countdown.swf

don't do it in the US. You might be declared an enemy combatant (see
signature).

But hey, it is funny :-)

#m
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G. Sylvester wrote:
Roger - I have plenty of respect for the things you have to say but in
this case, the term is wrong. It is nonetheless common and somewhat
offensive. Kind of like calling an Asian person an Oriental. It's
wrong and offensive. In NY where I grew up, everyone called Asians as
Orientals. it wasn't until I moved to California I learned that it was
wrong. History won't make it right.


WTH? My sister in law was a Japanese national (now US citizen) and I asked her
about this one time. She seemed a little confused at the notion that "Oriental"
was somehow offensive. Frankly, so am I. All it refers to is someone from the
Orient. We call people from Europe Europeans and nobody's ass gets chapped.



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In article ,
says...
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 21:33:46 +1300, Duncan wrote:

and hit this link:

http://www.thecleverest.com/countdown.swf

don't do it in the US. You might be declared an enemy combatant (see
signature).

Yeah I bet! Don't worry, I believe you.


But hey, it is funny :-)

#m


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Duncan

G. Sylvester writes:

Roger - I have plenty of respect for the things you have to say but in
this case, the term is wrong. It is nonetheless common and somewhat
offensive.

It doesn't bother any of the flight attendants I know. Are you a
flight attendant?

Kind of like calling an Asian person an Oriental.

Orientals are a subset of Asians. Asia is a very big place. Oriental
refers to someone from the Far East, where mongoloid body types and
features are common (e.g., Japan, China, etc.). Two thirds of the
world is Asian, so Asian is a very vague term.

It's wrong and offensive.

It's neither.

In NY where I grew up, everyone called Asians as Orientals.

Which Asians? The term only applies to the ones I've described above.
Indians are Asians, but they aren't Orientals.

it wasn't until I moved to California I learned that it was
wrong.

Ah ... you moved to California. California isn't the world, and there
are many rational people outside the State, even if the rational ones
within it are not permitted to speak.

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G. Sylvester writes:

my god (and I'm a born-again atheist ;-) ) am I being accused of being
politically correct?

What you've described perfectly fits the definition.

There's no chance in hell that would happen.

Most people afflicted by it don't know they have it.

Anyway, this isn't about being politically correct.

It's _entirely_ about being politically correct.

After all, if you aren't friendly to the FA's, how could possibly
expect to get the pre-departure warm nuts.

FA's with a three-digit IQ aren't likely to worry too much about what
they are called, within reason.

And from now on, I'm referring to
Airbus SIC's as the "assistant to the real pilot" or should that be
"assistant busdriver?"

On an Airbus, all you need is someone to push the buttons.

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G. Sylvester wrote:
my god (and I'm a born-again atheist ;-) ) am I being accused of being
politically correct? There's no chance in hell that would happen. My
friends would laugh their a$$es off about that one. Anyway, this isn't
about being politically correct. After all, if you aren't friendly to
the FA's, how could possibly expect to get the pre-departure warm nuts.
Now when you are talking about the UA Red Carpet Club matrons or
dragons, that's another story. ;-) And from now on, I'm referring to
Airbus SIC's as the "assistant to the real pilot" or should that be
"assistant busdriver?"

You are correct.
I remember reading one of Gordon Baxter's columns some 20 years ago.
His wife, Diane, had been a FA for Braniff.
She got called in to work one time when she had a bad case of the flu.
As the story goes, a male passenger in first class was giving her a real
bad time. The last straw had something to do with a demand for a drink.
Back then, first class drinks were served in real glass cups.
Before she poured the passengers drink into the glass, she licked the
rim all around.

Looks like something to show the screeners when they ask you to turn
your laptop on to show them it isn't a bomb.

Duncan (NZ) wrote:
one of them email funnies...
"The next time you find yourself on a plane, sitting next to someone who
cannot resist chattering to you endlessly, I urge you to quietly pull
your laptop out of your bag, carefully open the screen (ensuring the
irritating person next to you can see it), and hit this link:
http://www.thecleverest.com/countdown.swf

On 2007-01-27, G. Sylvester wrote:
Roger - I have plenty of respect for the things you have to say but in
this case, the term is wrong.

I'm curious - what makes the term 'steward' or 'stewardess' offensive or
wrong? I can't think of any negative connotations of the term which
would do so. As far as I know, at least where I live, the collective
term is "cabin crew" and the singular term is "steward" or "stewardess",
and this is what the cabin crew actually call themselves.

I always thought "flight attendant" sounded slightly demeaning compared
to "steward" or "cabin crew".

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