PSA: Don't be rude on the radio

buttman wrote:
Actually, what it means is that I don't believe you are a CFI at all, or if
you are, a very bad one, and that if you and I tangle again, it will be on
the student newsgroup where I have an active interest in flight safety.

Dudley Henriques

No, it means you ran out of straw man arguments so you're pathetically
taking your ball and going home. Whatever. As long as you promise to
not reply to any of my postings then thats best for both of us.


And if you stop posting ... that is best for all of us. :-)

Dudley Henriques wrote:
"RST Engineering" wrote in message
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Dudley, for the love of God, DON'T MUD WRESTLE WITH A PIG. You get all
dirty and the pig likes it.

Jim

I know. Slow day here. getting ready to storm like hell and I have 2 huge
filet mignons and veggies to match all oiled and marinated and readied up
for the grill. A big CB has been sitting right over our heads for a few
hours now and I've been bored to tears waiting for it to blow over.
It's either post to the Butthead or eat the stuff raw.

You mean there is a difference between those choices? :-)

Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
"RST Engineering" wrote in message
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Dudley, for the love of God, DON'T MUD WRESTLE WITH A PIG. You get all
dirty and the pig likes it.

Jim

I know. Slow day here. getting ready to storm like hell and I have 2 huge
filet mignons and veggies to match all oiled and marinated and readied up
for the grill. A big CB has been sitting right over our heads for a few
hours now and I've been bored to tears waiting for it to blow over.
It's either post to the Butthead or eat the stuff raw.

You mean there is a difference between those choices? :-)

Matt

Well, we just ate the filets and they were great! The other choice wasn't
so appetizing really
:-)
Dudley Henriques

"Allen" wrote in message
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Which does nothing to define what "final approach" is. If you are aligned
with the runway and intending to land does final begin 5 miles from the
threshold? 10 miles? 15 miles? 50 miles?


All of those. You're on final when you're aligned with the landing area.

"John Godwin" wrote in message
. 3.50...

... and I believe that the AIM defines "Final Approach" as:
A flight path in the direction of landing along the extended
runway centerline from the base leg to the runway.


P/CG:

FINAL- Commonly used to mean that an aircraft is on the final approach
course or is aligned with a landing area.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
link.net...

"Allen" wrote in message
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Which does nothing to define what "final approach" is. If you are
aligned
with the runway and intending to land does final begin 5 miles from the
threshold? 10 miles? 15 miles? 50 miles?


All of those. You're on final when you're aligned with the landing area.


I don't agree with you. If you are aligned with the landing area but still
20 miles out you are enroute, not on final.

On Sun, 13 May 2007 02:08:23 GMT, "Allen"
wrote in :


"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Allen" wrote in message
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Which does nothing to define what "final approach" is. If you are
aligned
with the runway and intending to land does final begin 5 miles from the
threshold? 10 miles? 15 miles? 50 miles?


All of those. You're on final when you're aligned with the landing area.


I don't agree with you. If you are aligned with the landing area but still
20 miles out you are enroute, not on final.


It would seem that is true if there is a published FAF for that
runway.

On Sun, 13 May 2007 02:08:23 GMT, "Allen"
wrote:


I don't agree with you. If you are aligned with the landing area but still
20 miles out you are enroute, not on final.


Big jets are on long final at my local international airport all the
time.

We hear ATC stating stuff like "BigJet 233, 15 mile final, rwy 24"
usually in IFR. I've also heard jets being told "BigJet 233, report 3
mile left base rwy 24", on a clear day.

On snowy days, I've heard final approach described as 30 mile final,
then 20, then 10, which is relayed to the ground maintenance folks
doing snow removal.

"Allen" wrote in message
t...

I don't agree with you. If you are aligned with the landing area but
still
20 miles out you are enroute, not on final.


Your disagreement alters nothing.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Allen" wrote in message
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Which does nothing to define what "final approach" is. If you are aligned
with the runway and intending to land does final begin 5 miles from the
threshold? 10 miles? 15 miles? 50 miles?


All of those. You're on final when you're aligned with the landing area.

So if airport A has a runway that is perfectly aligned to airport B
which is 100 miles distant and I fly directly from airport B to airport
A (into the wind so I'm landing on the appropriate runway without
turning), that means I'm on final the entire trip? Cool!


Matt