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that it is the cause of the belief system that they monger power. I can't see that I said that. You didn't. It's either a strawman (my bad) or (IME) the place people who don't like churches usually go next. To my mind it's not so much that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. So much as corrupt people do corrupt things; and corrupt people with power do really corrupt things. Religion has long been (one way) for people to gain power. A large number of whom have been corrupt. There are any number of secular bad guys out there as well. I think the main difference is that the secular power hungry guys do not normally claim to be ethical/moral. Myself (and others I'm told) have problems when a group claims to stand for moral principles not only because they are good and just, but also the word/law of god. Then lie, cheat and steal while the cover up the crimes of others, for example child molestation and the catholic church). The actually number of pedophiles within the church does no difference statistically from the general population. However the general population does not claim to hold itself to a high moral standard either. So it's not so much that some of us 'don't like churches' as we don't like the hypocrisy rampant in many religions. Then again that might just be me |
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Is that possible? Yes. It was all contained in the "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy." The answer to the ultimate question was "42". And that just about sums it all up. yep. I agree. 42. perfect :-)) IIRC it's actually 48, some time traveling aliens screwed it up (Q: what is 6x8). Although I did think Gods final message to man was good stuff... |
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Oh, give it a rest already, Jay. Just because a few
big names have been caught with their hands in the cookie jar, you think that every church in the world is an organization of criminals? Gimme a break.And you know, if this is the worst thing that's ever happened to you (and you seem to act as if it was), then your life could be a whole lot worse. Dude, I was talking about the *casino*... Sheesh... -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Come over here : we'll do some flying and you'll learn some french.
Um, first you better tell me where "here" is... ;-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Personally, I feel that we work too damned hard for our money to donate
it to organized criminals. Oh, give it a rest already, Jay. Just because a few big names have been caught with their hands in the cookie jar, you think that every church in the world is an organization of criminals? Gimme a break. L O ****ing L! You assumed he was talking about the church too, eh? :-D |
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So, Jay, why DO you have bibles in your hotel rooms? Why not leftover AOPA
Pilot mags instead? Spread the *good* word! |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Personally, I feel that we work too damned hard for our money to donate it to organized criminals. Would that be the organized criminals that run the casino or the ones that run the church Actually I am a religious church goer, but I realize that there are a lot of "churches" out there that are more interested in your wallet than your soul. That is why I believe that no one should be compensated for their service in the church. In the church I belong to that is the way it is. I also strongly believe in sharing my religious beliefs with those I know, but there is a time and a place for everything. What the two guys that you encountered were doing isn't exactly what I would classify as "sharing" beliefs. I also don't think that setting was the time or place, not even close. -- Chris W "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania |
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and which hypothesis in mathematics can't be proven or shown false that is
the basis for all other math? "Blanche Cohen" wrote in message ... I've long equated Religion with Mathematics. Each begins with a hypothesis that cannot be proved or disproved, and everything builds on that assumption. |
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"John Harlow" wrote in message ... So, Jay, why DO you have bibles in your hotel rooms? Why not leftover AOPA Pilot mags instead? Spread the *good* word! I believe he provides GANews/Flyer's. |
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I think he is right - you should know better than to start basically a
religious debate on a pilot newsgroup. It is also a bit arrogant to consider yourself more right about religion than those folks who you couldn't seem to figure out how to say goodbye to. The original responder (Ian I believe) did a good job. I certainly don't agree with the religious folks (I am the son of a Lutheran Pastor) but I have the good manners not to poke fun at people. I enjoy a good debate the Jehovah's Witnesses who make the mistake of coming to my door too, but I don't start flapping about it in a piloting newsgroup. "Afraid to share the airspace with guys who thins someone Else is steering?" Come on now, your turn to get a grip. "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:uypvb.265962$Tr4.822228@attbi_s03... My goodness, Jay. Get a grip. Discussing whacko pilots isn't appropriate in a piloting newsgroup? Get a grip, Larry. I'm sincerely afraid to share the airspace with guys who think someone Else is steering... -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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