Rod Machado's New PPL Manual

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:22:02 -0700 (PDT), Dan wrote:

On Mar 27, 1:06 pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:

Now, are you dying to ask me what I know about strength and power
training athletes? Remember the 10 industries I discussed earlier?
Before you started drinking?

Now I get it -- you're Tony Little -- that explains your long,
rambling, frenetic posts.

How's that infomercial business going?

Dan, you did the right thing, for once. I baited, you ran. That will
keep you from looking down and seeing the hatIi would have handed your
ass in to you.

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:38:53 -0500, Michael Ash wrote:

Wandering off the subject a bit, I have a pretty fierce fear of heights.
Any time I'm on the upper floors of a tall building, I try to stay away
from the windows. It's something I can get used to with time; I spent an
entire school year living on the 15th floor of my college dorm building,
but that's not particularly high either. I'll go up to the top of
landmarks to sightsee but tend to stay away from the edges if I can.



Airplanes, on the other hand, cause no problems for me whatsoever. Even in
a really light single-seater getting smacked around by turbulence, or
making steep turns and looking straight down, I have no trouble. It's
weird.

Not really. Different phobias most that begin with as sense of
insecurity, could be genetic, certainly is physiological (fear stimulus
biochemistry).

If I am at a height, the situation that places me at that height is the
issue, not the height. phobias irrational fears, are usually very
specific so "heights" are situation specific.

I stood on a 55 story roof, at the edge, in a wind, no problem. Same
thing with WTC 1. BIG problem, never got to the edge, low wind. Was it
the WTC "sway", I don't know. Too scared to figger out
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I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
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might kill someone.

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:11:42 -0400, Dudley Henriques wrote:

What about this.

A test market (geographic area, good weather, solid demographics, etc.),
a regional advertising push, pre-determined training plane inventories,
dedicated teaching staff credentials - a typical franchise with
controls, image, etc. It's a test. nothing set in concrete.

Co-funded by XYZ manufacturer or MFGs.

I hate to keep pushing the negatives on this, but considering all the
factors, coupled with my personal experience working within the
industry, my bottom line if asked for serious comment on the possibility
of success for any co- sponsored effort by the industry to attract a
broad customer base into flight training on a generic level would be
that the negatives would preclude the success of such a program.

I go back to the point where I said that the major mfgs, and their
agencies, they have been at this a long time. I would be surprised if
you are wrong not right.

How about the USGov, hey, let's let them....

nevermind.
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Dan wrote:
On Mar 27, 11:16 am, Larry Dighera wrote:

But the 800 lbs gorilla in the room that no one is mentioning here is
our inate fear of, and the risk posed by, heights. That's probably
the first turn-off for those who bother to consider GA at all.

Most people are nervous about climbing a 20 foot extension ladder, yet
most readily walk up a jetway to fly to Orlando.

I think the perception of height is very different in an airplane than
it is on a ladder, or a roof, or on belay.

My wife hates heights, but has flown. The thing she doesn't like are
the "bumps" that make the airplane feel like it's "falling."


Dan Mc


I can't stand heights and exactly as you mentioned a 20 ft step ladder
makes me nervous. But I have never been afraid heights in an airplane
even one with an open cockpit.

That was until I took my first helicopter lesson in an R22 with the
doors off. The young instructor showed off a little and I was just about
to make him land so I could get the hell out then he handed me the
controls while in straight and level and I was fine until he took back
over to land.

On the ground we talked about it and then after lunch we were going up
again. When I strapped in I really pushed against the seatbelt hard in
all directions and was very secure that it would hold.

We took off and there was no problem. So this made me figure out that I
wasn't really afraid of heights I was afraid of falling.

I'm not afraid of falling, but I am afraid of that sudden stop at the
end of the fall!

Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Dan wrote:
On Mar 27, 11:16 am, Larry Dighera wrote:

But the 800 lbs gorilla in the room that no one is mentioning here is
our inate fear of, and the risk posed by, heights. That's probably
the first turn-off for those who bother to consider GA at all.

Most people are nervous about climbing a 20 foot extension ladder, yet
most readily walk up a jetway to fly to Orlando.

I think the perception of height is very different in an airplane than
it is on a ladder, or a roof, or on belay.

My wife hates heights, but has flown. The thing she doesn't like are
the "bumps" that make the airplane feel like it's "falling."


Dan Mc


I can't stand heights and exactly as you mentioned a 20 ft step ladder
makes me nervous. But I have never been afraid heights in an airplane
even one with an open cockpit.

That was until I took my first helicopter lesson in an R22 with the
doors off. The young instructor showed off a little and I was just
about to make him land so I could get the hell out then he handed me
the controls while in straight and level and I was fine until he took
back over to land.

On the ground we talked about it and then after lunch we were going up
again. When I strapped in I really pushed against the seatbelt hard in
all directions and was very secure that it would hold.

We took off and there was no problem. So this made me figure out that
I wasn't really afraid of heights I was afraid of falling.

I'm not afraid of falling, but I am afraid of that sudden stop at the
end of the fall!

Matt

Had a sky diver friend of mine tell me once (there was liquor involved
so I can't attest to the absolute truth of the matter :-) that his
insurance guy, when figuring out the rates for his life insurance, told
him that when the company ran the model through the computers, they
discovered that if he could remain in the free fall part of the jump
indefinitely, the rate would be extremely good, but that it was the end
of the jump and the potential problems associated with the various
endings that part entailed that made the difference and raised the rate.


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Dudley Henriques

On Mar 27, 5:36 pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:

Now I get it -- you're Tony Little -- that explains your long,
rambling, frenetic posts.

How's that infomercial business going?

Dan, you did the right thing, for once. I baited, you ran. That will
keep you from looking down and seeing the hatIi would have handed your
ass in to you.

You're a GSA Contractor?

Lemme guess -- Toilet paper provider? Septic Tank cleaning?

Do Continue -- I'm anxious to hear all about your next area of phony
expertise.

You certainly have no expertise in flying.



Dan Mc

On Mar 27, 5:48 pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:

I stood on a 55 story roof, at the edge, in a wind, no problem. Same
thing with WTC 1. BIG problem, never got to the edge, low wind. Was it
the WTC "sway", I don't know. Too scared to figger out

Nearly a year to the day I stood on the observation platform, I
returned to the WTC site... on September 13th & 14, 2001.


Dan Mc

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:35:57 -0700 (PDT), Dan wrote:

Dan, you did the right thing, for once. I baited, you ran. That will
keep you from looking down and seeing the hatIi would have handed your
ass in to you.

You're a GSA Contractor?

At your service Schedule 70.

Lemme guess -- Toilet paper provider? Septic Tank cleaning?

Do Continue -- I'm anxious to hear all about your next area of phony
expertise.

Haven't got any, Dan, sorry.

You certainly have no expertise in flying.

Dan Mc

Oh, you might be surprised, Dan.
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I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone.

On Mar 27, 11:26 pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:

You certainly have no expertise in flying.

Oh, you might be surprised, Dan.

I'm sure.

Do tell.

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:28:46 -0700 (PDT), Dan wrote:

On Mar 27, 11:26 pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:

You certainly have no expertise in flying.

Oh, you might be surprised, Dan.

I'm sure.

Do tell.

I have. Read.