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Old October 2nd 06, 01:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default I'm tired of hearing how "dangerous" flying is...

"Emily" wrote in message
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Hmmm....time for a bigger bed.

Or the floor.


Or a softer radiator...


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Old October 2nd 06, 01:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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However, it's quite difficult to fall out of a car seat! G


Hmmm... Never had a car upside down before, eh?


  #153  
Old October 2nd 06, 01:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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("Newps" wrote)
...but what the #$%* is a "sex hour?"


A years worth, for you.



Operating at the speed of light, that should maybe be presented in light
years.

Better yet, the boiled egg conversion might also work he

Lets see, there's "50"+ weeks per year.... g


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Old October 2nd 06, 02:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Grumman-581 wrote:
"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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However, it's quite difficult to fall out of a car seat! G


Hmmm... Never had a car upside down before, eh?


Well, then you'd be on the floor of the car...
  #155  
Old October 2nd 06, 02:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 00:17:03 -0700, Ron Garret
wrote:
It's very hard to do an apples-to-apples risk comparison among two
different activities. What do you comapre? Deaths per year? Per
vehicle hour? Per passenger mile? Do you count the "avoidable" deaths
where someone just did something stupid (like take off without enough
fuel or jump off a bridge)?


Depends on what you're comparing. If you're trying to convince your
relatives about flying safety vs., say, motorcycle riding, deaths per
flight (riding) hour is appropriate, or perhaps per mile. If you're
an insurance company figuring rates, deaths per year for pilots vs.
deaths per year for the general population is appropriate.

Hell, for all I know it may be that flying itself is very safe, but
pilots are 400% more likely to die from falling, or having sex, or
whatever else we've discussed. I don't really believe that, of
course, but if it were true then pilots would still, from an insurance
company's standpoint, be a greater risk.

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  #156  
Old October 2nd 06, 01:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On 2006-09-30, Judah wrote:
The odds of dying from choking ("Inhalation and Ingestion of food causing
obstruction of respirator track") is 4284 to 1, so just slightly higher than
flying. So basically, eating is slightly more dangerous than flying.


You mentioned proportionality, and then threw it out of the window.

270 million Americans eat probably at least twice a day. There are only
600,000 pilots - with only 300,000 estimated as being active GA pilots.
A very active GA pilot will probably fly perhaps around 3 times a week.

To say eating is slightly more dangerous than flying is so wrong it
isn't even wrong. Your position seems to be one of denial (incidentally,
one of the hazardous attitudes we are all taught about in training)
rather than level-headed knowledge.

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Old October 2nd 06, 04:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Judah writes:

Exactly how many insurance companies ask this question?


Every time I've filled out an insurance application I've been asked if
I were a member of an airline crew.


Exactly how many times have you filled out an insurance application? How many
different insurance companies?
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Old October 2nd 06, 04:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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For the record, the Jewish law is similar. They just never made a song
about it.

"Montblack" wrote in
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("B A R R Y" wrote)
In a religious discussion, the act of spilling seed would have wasted
the opportunity to create a human being, and thus have been equivalent
to committing murder.


I saw "Monty Pyton's Meaning of Life", so I fully understand... G



http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/mol/m-04-i-2.htm
[music]
I'm a Roman Catholic,
And have been since before I was born,
And the one thing they say about Catholics is:
They'll take you as soon as you're warm.

You don't have to be a six-footer.
You don't have to have a great brain.
You don't have to have any clothes on. You're
A Catholic the moment Dad came,

Because

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

CHILDREN: [singing]
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

GIRL: [singing]
Let the heathen spill theirs
On the dusty ground.
God shall make them pay for
Each sperm that can't be found.

CHILDREN: [singing]
Every sperm is wanted.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed
In your neighbourhood.

http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/mol/mol.htm
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Old October 2nd 06, 04:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Montblack" wrote in news:12huap6gg0q9095
@corp.supernews.com:

("Bob Noel" wrote)
How many accidents per sex hour are there?


define "accident" :-)



Accident is easy enough

...but what the #$%* is a "sex hour?"


Montblack :-)


About 30 sex accidents...
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Old October 2nd 06, 04:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default I'm tired of hearing how "dangerous" flying is...

I know you werent referring to bungee jumping, but it was an excellent
example.

My point is exactly that it's impossible to make an apples-to-apples risk
comparison of two activities, as you say. Yet somehow GA is labelled as
being very dangerous as compared with other activities. And since there is
not an apples-to-apples comparison as evidence, it must be based on
people's fear of heights, speed, and lack of control more than any
statistic.


Ron Garret wrote in
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In article ,
Judah wrote:

Ron Garret wrote in
:

In article ,
Judah wrote:

According to
http://www.deathreference.com/Ho-Ka/...Mortality.html
approximately 50,000 Americans per year die in occupational
injuries. So in other words, working is more dangerous than flying.

No, because most people work a lot more than they fly.

Take it to the extreme: more people die every year riding in GA
planes than they do, say, jumping off bridges. That doesn't mean
that jumping off a bridge is safer than flying.


I'm not trying to say it is. All I'm trying to say is that there are
plenty of things in life that are substantially more dangerous than
flying. Yet somehow, an extraordinary number of people have an innate
fear of flying, and it leads to things like insurance companies asking
about it on their policies.

I didn't see statistics for bungee jumping off bridges. But my guess is
that flying is indeed safer than bungee jumping, especially off
bridges. Yet I don't recall being asked on my insurance forms if I have
bungee jumped within the last 12 months... It's just not an issue.


I wasn't referring to bungee jumping. When I said "jumping off a
bridge" I meant it literally.

The reason a lot more people die on the roads than in the air is not
that driving is more dangerous than flying, it's that more people drive
than fly. Likewise, the reason more people die flying than (let's use a
different example) playing Russian Roulette is not that flying is more
dangerous than RR.

It's very hard to do an apples-to-apples risk comparison among two
different activities. What do you comapre? Deaths per year? Per
vehicle hour? Per passenger mile? Do you count the "avoidable" deaths
where someone just did something stupid (like take off without enough
fuel or jump off a bridge)?

rg


 




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