Cessna's response to negative feedback on Skycatcher being builtin China

Matt W. Barrow wrote:
"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message
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news.verizon.net wrote:
and in those same articles it mentions that some of the prisoners don't
want to go back to their country of origin due to fear for their lives
and some of the countries don't want them back either. but I guess that
does not fit with your argument so you ignore those facts.
The argument, since you clearly have the attention span of a gnat with
ADD, is over the claim that every single person imprisoned at Guantanamo
is a terrorist or guilty of some sort of violent action against the U.S.
Those articles clearly refute that, as do the actions of the Pentagon in
offering them release whether or not they have some place to go. Several
years late, mind you...

You better check your own attention span since you're conflating "cleared
for release" with the circumstances of theri capture.

Oh, so now you're saying the Pentagon is irresponsibly releasing
clearing them for release?

In case you haven't heard, several sent back from Gitmo have been captured
again or killed in attacks against us.

Cites, please. And even if true, might it not be the case that being
held for years under the conditions imposed would be even to **** anyone
off enough to take up arms?

By the way, are you now taking up the cause of China in calling the 22
Uighur secessionists terrorists?

Head out of ass, please.

You first.

Jay Honeck wrote:
Once again ignoring the fact the Pentagon itself acknowledged that
more than 20 percent of them were innocent of charges and should be
released. But still held onto them.

Cite?

You can find articles from last spring (as I said) with five seconds
of effort on Google. Wikipedia quotes one:

"More than a fifth of the approximately 385 prisoners at Guantanamo
Bay, Cuba, have been cleared for release but may have to wait months
or years for their freedom because U.S. officials are finding it
increasingly difficult to line up places to send them..." (Source: 82
Inmates Cleared but Still Held at Guantanamo, by Craig Whitlock,
Washington Post, April 29, 2007.)

That's a nice Washington Post cite, but I asked for one that shows that
the Pentagon has admitted that it's holding innocent men at Gitmo.

RTFA. While I realize you don't believe anything that didn't come
straight from the asses of Faux News, I'm not going to do your research
for you.

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Ricky wrote in news:7fe7eae4-2bdc-4ae0-a324-
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On Jan 4, 2:13 pm, "NW_Pilot" wrote
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We use slave labor in prisons also......Not just china....
American prisoners are not inhumanely tortured to the point of death
for crimes such as being a Christian, dude.



Give them time and there will be torture for not being christian.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition...

Rich Ahrens wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Ricky wrote in
news:7fe7eae4-2bdc-4ae0-a324-
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On Jan 4, 2:13 pm, "NW_Pilot"
wrote
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We use slave labor in prisons also......Not just china....
American prisoners are not inhumanely tortured to the point of death
for crimes such as being a Christian, dude.



Give them time and there will be torture for not being christian.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition...


Amongst our weaponry are a loon mallet...

Bertie

"dVaridel" wrote in
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"John Mazor" wrote
Addicts whose only crime was possession (and maybe a count of petty
larceny) got the book thrown at them,

If it was my house they robbed to feed their habit you're darn tootin
the book should be thrown at them!


as if that would help them

While locked up they would not be able to rob my place. Eventually
they'd get the idea that stealing is a bad idea.

Too simplistic?


Well, the first is true, the second is pretty unlikely..


Bertie

Rich,

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition...


And now for something completely different...

Wonderful Spam!

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Thomas Borchert wrote in
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Rich,

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition...


And now for something completely different...

Wonderful Spam!


Don;'t mention the war.


Bertie

Rich Ahrens wrote:
Jay Honeck wrote:
Once again ignoring the fact the Pentagon itself acknowledged that
more than 20 percent of them were innocent of charges and should be
released. But still held onto them.

Cite?

You can find articles from last spring (as I said) with five seconds
of effort on Google. Wikipedia quotes one:

"More than a fifth of the approximately 385 prisoners at Guantanamo
Bay, Cuba, have been cleared for release but may have to wait months
or years for their freedom because U.S. officials are finding it
increasingly difficult to line up places to send them..." (Source: 82
Inmates Cleared but Still Held at Guantanamo, by Craig Whitlock,
Washington Post, April 29, 2007.)

That's a nice Washington Post cite, but I asked for one that shows
that the Pentagon has admitted that it's holding innocent men at Gitmo.

RTFA. While I realize you don't believe anything that didn't come
straight from the asses of Faux News, I'm not going to do your research
for you.

There's no country that will take them. What do you expect the pentagon
to do. Dump them in the Atlantic. If they did that then you'd really bitch.

Gig601XLBuilder wrote in
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Rich Ahrens wrote:
Jay Honeck wrote:
Once again ignoring the fact the Pentagon itself acknowledged
that more than 20 percent of them were innocent of charges and
should be released. But still held onto them.

Cite?

You can find articles from last spring (as I said) with five
seconds of effort on Google. Wikipedia quotes one:

"More than a fifth of the approximately 385 prisoners at Guantanamo
Bay, Cuba, have been cleared for release but may have to wait
months or years for their freedom because U.S. officials are
finding it increasingly difficult to line up places to send
them..." (Source: 82 Inmates Cleared but Still Held at Guantanamo,
by Craig Whitlock, Washington Post, April 29, 2007.)

That's a nice Washington Post cite, but I asked for one that shows
that the Pentagon has admitted that it's holding innocent men at
Gitmo.

RTFA. While I realize you don't believe anything that didn't come
straight from the asses of Faux News, I'm not going to do your
research for you.

There's no country that will take them. What do you expect the
pentagon to do. Dump them in the Atlantic. If they did that then you'd
really bitch.


As should anyone this side of attila the hun.



Bertie

While locked up they would not be able to rob my place. Eventually they'd
get the idea that stealing is a bad idea.

Too simplistic?

Makes sense to me -- but I'd take it further. How's this for criminal
justice?:

Can we all agree that anyone convicted of four (4) felony crimes isn't
getting the message? Or maybe three? Perhaps five? I don't really care
where the threshold is set -- but it needs to be set.

Sentences double after each felony. Thus, if you're dumb enough to commit
the same crime twice, your 5 year sentence becomes 10 years. Third time?
It's 20.

Do it again? Anyone convicted of four felonies is executed. Call it four
strikes and you're out.

Recidivism is a terrible problem in our society. The majority of criminals
in federal prisons aren't there for the first time. Studies have shown
that the majority of serious crimes are being committed by repeat offenders.

We can quibble about the details, but I think this simple set of rules would
make our streets a lot safer, and solve prison over-crowding at the same
time.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
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