Katrina fall-out

sfb wrote:
Airplanes have seats and rest rooms which are seldom found in boxcars.


How long would they have been on this efficient means of trasnportation, a
few hours tops?

If this city was flooding (which it does, btw), I would GLADLY and without a
second thought put my family on a boxcar if that was the only means I had to
escape.

Thomas Borchert wrote:

And now, for some aviation content: The looters in New Orleans are SHOOTING
at rescue helicopters!

Ah, isn't it a great country where everbody has the legal right to own guns?

A local businessman took his boat and went down there to aide in the
rescues. First house with people on it he came to, they pointed guns at
him and wanted to take his boat. He turned around put the boat back on
the trailer and came home...

In article ,
"Dave Stadt" wrote:

1) Equipment and personnel are already enroute. (some are already
there)

Already? Get real,

yes. Several news reports of USAF special ops at the airport restoring
services there in order to support rescue/recovery/aid operations.
(iirc this was wednesday when I saw the reports).

Plus Navy ships enroute.

2) The US military isn't forward deployed to the US.

The National Guard is and they have yet to arrive in any quantity.

Talk to the state or governer. I was under the impression that Martin
was whining about the feds.

--
Bob Noel
no one likes an educated mule

Bob Noel wrote:

The National Guard is and they have yet to arrive in any quantity.

Talk to the state or governer. I was under the impression that Martin
was whining about the feds.

A good portion of the LA-NG is in Iraq...

There was a plan to improve the whole system including raising the levees to
withstand a Cat 5


Mike
MU-2

"sfb" wrote in message news:PaRRe.8100$__1.4958@trnddc07...
The Corps of Engineers budget is a long running smoke and mirrors
political game where the administration goes low so the Congresscritters
can get the credit for adding stuff the local folks want. The Corps
doesn't think the improvements would have made a difference as Katrina
drove water over the top of the levees undermining the dry side.

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message news:uwQRe.3684

If all the money for the Corps of Engineers wasn't sent to Iraq, the
infrastructure around New Orleans could have been improved to the point
where most people could go home now. Smaller hurricanes wouldn't require
any evacuation. Supposedly the cost was under $1B.

Mike
MU-2

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:X9XRe.82236$084.46538@attbi_s22...
Next: The end of the west coast, since it is in an earthquake area.
Imagine Silicon Valley vanishing in a major quake...

Silicon Valley is another perfect example of human arrogance.

Hey -- wait -- I've got it! Let's build a 100 billion dollar
infrastructure on top of a major fault line!

And when (not if) it is destroyed, there will be people begging the
Federal Government to come rebuild it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


Silicon Valley is where it is because that it where the brainpower that
fuels it resides.

Mike
MU-2

In the case of NO, the city is a vital deepwater port at the mouth of a huge
river that accesses a huge portion of the country. It pretty much has to be
where it is.

Mike
MU-2


"john smith" wrote in message
. ..
I wonder if the insurance companies (and the federal government) will
FINALLY wake up to the fact that building permanent structures below
sea-level in a hurricane zone is folly?

It is time for the federal government to tell local and state governments
that federal tax dollars will no longer be spent to rebuild in areas like
coastal plains (flooding, storm surge), river valleys (flooding),
earthquake faults (self explanatory), unstable hillsides (mud slides),
etc., which are zoned residential.

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
...
In article et,
"Mike Rapoport" wrote:

If all the money for the Corps of Engineers wasn't sent to Iraq,

another source of money could be all the money ****ed away
on failed social programs


Yes, except that the money was actually allocated for infrastructure
projects in Iraq.


the
infrastructure around New Orleans could have been improved to the point
where most people could go home now.

Three words: Environmental impact study

Can't you imagine all the people that would be complaining about
the noise and dust and stuff from the construction near where they live?


Actually the people there have been asking for the improvements for years.

Mike
MU-2

In article . net,
Mike Rapoport wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:X9XRe.82236$084.46538@attbi_s22...

Silicon Valley is another perfect example of human arrogance.

Hey -- wait -- I've got it! Let's build a 100 billion dollar
infrastructure on top of a major fault line!

And when (not if) it is destroyed, there will be people begging the
Federal Government to come rebuild it.

Silicon Valley is where it is because that it where the brainpower that
fuels it resides.

The 1989 earthquake epicenter was just a few miles from the Silicon
Valley (just a name for the general area). There was some damage,
but most of the buildings were built with earthquakes in mind, and
since then, building codes have been upgraded.

Most of the houses are single story wood frame structures, which
can handle earthquakes fairly well. Plaster and windows may crack,
but the structure will generally stay standing.

A big earthquake will happen, but steps have been taken to minimize
the impact.

John
--
John Clear - http://www.clear-prop.org/

"Darrel Toepfer" wrote in message
...
Bob Noel wrote:

The National Guard is and they have yet to arrive in any quantity.

Talk to the state or governer. I was under the impression that Martin
was whining about the feds.

A good portion of the LA-NG is in Iraq...

Yes they are I think the number is about 35%. What's your point? The 65%
that is available is under the command of the Gov. of Louisiana.