Straight-ins at uncontrolled airports?

Crash Lander writes:

Active and non-active. You know very well what I meant. Now you're just
being facetious.

No, I'm serious. Flying on the wrong side of the pattern is dangerous.

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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No, I'm serious. Flying on the wrong side of the pattern is dangerous.

This is clearly not your bridge. Please get out from under it.
Crash Lander

Here's a question for pilots.

You're flying a downwind to 05 at an uncontrolled airport called
Podunk that has a normal traffic pattern in the United States and you
hear and you hear on unicom "Poduck traffic, Mooney N 000 is entering
upwind for 05". Do you know where to look for that traffic?

Now, for those lurkers who know something about aviation : How about
you? Would you know where to look?


"On Feb 15, 11:04 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Crash Lander writes:
Active and non-active. You know very well what I meant. Now you're just
being facetious.

No, I'm serious. Flying on the wrong side of the pattern is dangerous.

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"Tony" wrote in message
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Here's a question for pilots.

You're flying a downwind to 05 at an uncontrolled airport called
Podunk that has a normal traffic pattern in the United States and you
hear and you hear on unicom "Poduck traffic, Mooney N 000 is entering
upwind for 05". Do you know where to look for that traffic?

Now, for those lurkers who know something about aviation : How about
you? Would you know where to look?

Well, he should be on the opposite side of the airfield to you, heading in
the opposite direction. As a precaution, if you could not spot him, you
could/should make a position call of your own, to let him know you are
already in the pattern so he can also look out for you.
Oz/Crash Lander

On 15 Feb 2007 20:29:41 -0800, "Tony" wrote:

Here's a question for pilots.

You're flying a downwind to 05 at an uncontrolled airport called
Podunk that has a normal traffic pattern in the United States and you
hear and you hear on unicom "Poduck traffic, Mooney N 000 is entering
upwind for 05". Do you know where to look for that traffic?

Now, for those lurkers who know something about aviation : How about
you? Would you know where to look?

Every where!



"On Feb 15, 11:04 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Crash Lander writes:
Active and non-active. You know very well what I meant. Now you're just
being facetious.

No, I'm serious. Flying on the wrong side of the pattern is dangerous.

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Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 03:40:43 -0500, Roger
wrote:

On 15 Feb 2007 20:29:41 -0800, "Tony" wrote:

Here's a question for pilots.

You're flying a downwind to 05 at an uncontrolled airport called
Podunk that has a normal traffic pattern in the United States and you
hear and you hear on unicom "Poduck traffic, Mooney N 000 is entering
upwind for 05". Do you know where to look for that traffic?

Now, for those lurkers who know something about aviation : How about
you? Would you know where to look?

Every where!



"On Feb 15, 11:04 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Crash Lander writes:
Active and non-active. You know very well what I meant. Now you're just
being facetious.

No, I'm serious. Flying on the wrong side of the pattern is dangerous.

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Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
As I recall the AIM calls for entering the pattern at a 45 degree
angle to the downwind leg. That being said, If you are approaching the
down wind leg for runway 36, the downwind heading is 180, is it
acceptable to cross over the top of the field on a heading of 135 and
turn to a heading of 180? Or do you cross over the top of the airport
and do a right turn to heading of 225 setting up a right turn to the
180 down wind leg? That has always confused me. Thanks
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Jim in Houston
osPAm
Nurse's creed: Fill what's empty, empty what's full,
and scratch where it itches!! RN does NOT mean Real Nerd!

1 cross over well above pattern altitude, descend to pattern altitude
on the 'pattern' side, using the crossing over time to see what was
going on at the airport, then enter on a 45,
or

2 circle at some distance to get to the pattern side, enter in the
normal way

or

3 enter on the upwide side as mentioned elsewhere.

If it's uncontrolled with a conventional pattern, feel free to enter
anwhere on the circuit so long as you'll then be making turns to the
left, and announce, announce, anounce!

On Feb 17, 6:34 pm, Jim wrote:
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 03:40:43 -0500, Roger
wrote:





On 15 Feb 2007 20:29:41 -0800, "Tony" wrote:

Here's a question for pilots.

You're flying a downwind to 05 at an uncontrolled airport called
Podunk that has a normal traffic pattern in the United States and you
hear and you hear on unicom "Poduck traffic, Mooney N 000 is entering
upwind for 05". Do you know where to look for that traffic?

Now, for those lurkers who know something about aviation : How about
you? Would you know where to look?

Every where!

"On Feb 15, 11:04 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Crash Lander writes:
Active and non-active. You know very well what I meant. Now you're just
being facetious.

No, I'm serious. Flying on the wrong side of the pattern is dangerous.

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Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

As I recall the AIM calls for entering the pattern at a 45 degree
angle to the downwind leg. That being said, If you are approaching the
down wind leg for runway 36, the downwind heading is 180, is it
acceptable to cross over the top of the field on a heading of 135 and
turn to a heading of 180? Or do you cross over the top of the airport
and do a right turn to heading of 225 setting up a right turn to the
180 down wind leg? That has always confused me. Thanks
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Jim in Houston

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and scratch where it itches!! RN does NOT mean Real Nerd!- Hide quoted text -

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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:52:17 GMT, "Crash Lander"
wrote:

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
.. .
I did find one page that
talked about an upwind entry into the crosswind, and it argued that if you
are
at pattern altitude, you aren't likely to meet other traffic, but that
seems
like an extraordinarily dangerous assumption given the variability of
climb
rates, runway lengths, departure points on the runway, and so on. It's
even
more dangerous if someone decides to go around.

Ever heard of a radio? If someone's going around, and you're close enough to
be in their way, then you're a) going to hear their calls on the radio,
and/or you're looking for traffic anyway.
Crash Lander


unless they dont have a radio
Daveb

DaveB wrote:

On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:52:17 GMT, "Crash Lander"
wrote:

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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I did find one page that
talked about an upwind entry into the crosswind, and it argued
that if you are
at pattern altitude, you aren't likely to meet other traffic, but
that seems
like an extraordinarily dangerous assumption given the variability
of climb
rates, runway lengths, departure points on the runway, and so on.
It's even
more dangerous if someone decides to go around.

Ever heard of a radio? If someone's going around, and you're close
enough to be in their way, then you're a) going to hear their calls
on the radio, and/or you're looking for traffic anyway.
Crash Lander


unless they dont have a radio
Daveb

Then if they don't have a radio, that's an even stronger argument that
they should be joining a standard pattern, so other traffic already in
the pattern will already be looking for traffic.

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Oz Lander.
I'm not always right,
But I'm never wrong.

Oz Lander writes:

Then if they don't have a radio, that's an even stronger argument that
they should be joining a standard pattern, so other traffic already in
the pattern will already be looking for traffic.

Someone going around _is_ in the standard pattern, since the standard pattern
always includes the runway.

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