Any fliers?

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote:

BUFDRVR wrote:

Absolutely. When I heard the sortie durations for the F-15E guys/gals for OEF
I instantly felt better about my 17+ hour sorties. You would have to pry me
out of the seat with a crow bar after 12 hours in a fighter.

The properly selected seconds in a PA-32R left me with a lip lock on the seat
that it took the Jaws of Life to defeat.


Try to imagine 64 days, 22 hours, 19 minutes and five seconds in
a Cessna 172.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho.../10588716.html

They had the advantage (I guess) of the refuelings in which to
stretch a muscle here & there.


Billy

http://www.two--four.net/weblog.php

On 31 May 2004 02:06:19 GMT, (BUFDRVR) wrote:

Hell, don't think I could look at instumentation for that long.

You don't. Set the altitude hold autopilot, adjust the throttles every now and
again and look out the windows.

Yeah, suppose so. I'm not used to fancy things like autopilots. :-)

Not much to see up there,

Not bad though compared to the view from most office windows.

Oh well, I'll settle for a VIP guided tour of your bird next time your at
Fairford. ;-)

Deal...now all I have to do is get back to a flying unit!

Hope you get back up there soon. I haven't flown for a few years and really
miss it.


--
Steve.

On 31 May 2004 02:06:19 GMT, (BUFDRVR) wrote:

Hell, don't think I could look at instumentation for that long.

You don't. Set the altitude hold autopilot, adjust the throttles every now
and
again and look out the windows.

Yeah, suppose so. I'm not used to fancy things like autopilots. :-)

Not much to see up there,

Not bad though compared to the view from most office windows.

Oh well, I'll settle for a VIP guided tour of your bird next time your at
Fairford. ;-)

Deal...now all I have to do is get back to a flying unit!

Hope you get back up there soon. I haven't flown for a few years and really
miss it.


--
Steve.





You guys are weenies. Try flying formation with other fighters and a tanker
for 8 hours in and out of the weather overwater in a half inch thick anti
exposure suit. Backseaters learned formation and refueling really quick on
those trips. There was a way to disengage heading hold on the AP and kinda fly
formation with the rudders and throttles but it still required the the eyeballs
on the other birds and the stiff neck..

stevem8597 wrote:

You guys are weenies. Try flying formation with other fighters and a tanker
for 8 hours in and out of the weather overwater in a half inch thick anti
exposure suit.

I guess its all a matter of perspective. 30+ hours airborne is paiful, and us
bombers guys have *plenty* of night,weather air refueling. I'd imagine nearly
continuous A/Rs are a pain in the ass, but taking on 120,000 pounds at night in
the weather over the Pacific is no picnic. If the tanker can run on all its
boost pumps we can take about 6,000 pounds a minute which means 20 minutes of
contact time to take on the required on load. In my opinion, both seem
challenging.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

I guess its all a matter of perspective. 30+ hours airborne is paiful, and us
bombers guys have *plenty* of night,weather air refueling. I'd imagine nearly
continuous A/Rs are a pain in the ass, but taking on 120,000 pounds at night
in
the weather over the Pacific is no picnic. If the tanker can run on all its
boost pumps we can take about 6,000 pounds a minute which means 20 minutes of
contact time to take on the required on load. In my opinion, both seem
challenging.


I was looking at my granddads records when he flew the D at Ellsworth, and once
he had 5 refuelings without a disconnect. Seeing as that is at least 20 min
each time, seems like not a bad achievement at all

Did you know who Tony Kern was from an earlier conversation on here?


Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)
Silver City Tanker Base

"Ron" wrote in message
...
I guess its all a matter of perspective. 30+ hours airborne is paiful,
and us
bombers guys have *plenty* of night,weather air refueling. I'd imagine
nearly
continuous A/Rs are a pain in the ass, but taking on 120,000 pounds at
night
in
the weather over the Pacific is no picnic. If the tanker can run on all
its
boost pumps we can take about 6,000 pounds a minute which means 20
minutes of
contact time to take on the required on load. In my opinion, both seem
challenging.


I was looking at my granddads records when he flew the D at Ellsworth, and
once
he had 5 refuelings without a disconnect. Seeing as that is at least 20
min
each time, seems like not a bad achievement at all

Did you know who Tony Kern was from an earlier conversation on here?


Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)
Silver City Tanker Base

Tony Kern and I were instructor pilots in the Bone schoolhouse in 1991.
Last I talked to him, about 6 or so months ago, he was the head of aircraft
ops for the Forest Service. Probly why you know the name eh? :-)

JB

Tony Kern and I were instructor pilots in the Bone schoolhouse in 1991.
Last I talked to him, about 6 or so months ago, he was the head of aircraft
ops for the Forest Service. Probly why you know the name eh? :-)

JB


Yeah, wish I could talk about him or current events in a positive manner
though.


Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)
Silver City Tanker Base

On 02 Jun 2004 18:27:05 GMT, (SteveM8597) wrote:

You guys are weenies.

I see. So you know us personally do you?

Try flying formation with other fighters and a tanker
for 8 hours in and out of the weather overwater in a half inch thick anti
exposure suit.

Yeah yeah. Try spending 16 days on the flight deck of a shuttle, constantly
feeling sick.


--
Steve.

Ron wrote:

Did you know who Tony Kern was from an earlier conversation on here?


No. Who is he?


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

ubject: Any fliers?
From: Steve
Date: 6/5/04 5:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

On 02 Jun 2004 18:27:05 GMT, (SteveM8597) wrote:

You guys are weenies.

I see. So you know us personally do you?

Try flying formation with other fighters and a tanker
for 8 hours in and out of the weather overwater in a half inch thick anti
exposure suit.

Yeah yeah. Try spending 16 days on the flight deck of a shuttle, constantly
feeling sick.


--
Steve.


As long as there is no flak how bad can it be?


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