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Old September 1st 08, 11:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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In rec.aviation.piloting Gezellig wrote:
Who determines where you can or cannot land one?


Whoever has legal juridicion over the body of water, just like dirt.


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Old September 2nd 08, 03:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 17:36:24 -0400, Gezellig
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Who determines where you can or cannot land one?


In Canada it's the pilot.
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Old September 2nd 08, 05:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:33:30 GMT, Drew Dalgleish wrote:

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 17:36:24 -0400, Gezellig
wrote:

Who determines where you can or cannot land one?


In Canada it's the pilot.


Let's say the State of X is the water owner. In CA, the pilot can land
anywhere. Without penalty?

In US? Where is the jurisdiction enforced?
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Old September 2nd 08, 01:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Gezellig" wrote in message
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On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:33:30 GMT, Drew Dalgleish wrote:

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 17:36:24 -0400, Gezellig
wrote:

Who determines where you can or cannot land one?


In Canada it's the pilot.


Let's say the State of X is the water owner. In CA, the pilot can land
anywhere. Without penalty?

In US? Where is the jurisdiction enforced?


At least in the Midwest US, most of the lakes are controlled by the US Army
Corp of Engineers. They maintain one of more offices in every state around
here.


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Old September 2nd 08, 06:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 07:17:50 -0500, Zebulon wrote:

"Gezellig" wrote in message
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On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:33:30 GMT, Drew Dalgleish wrote:

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 17:36:24 -0400, Gezellig
wrote:

Who determines where you can or cannot land one?

In Canada it's the pilot.


Let's say the State of X is the water owner. In CA, the pilot can land
anywhere. Without penalty?

In US? Where is the jurisdiction enforced?


At least in the Midwest US, most of the lakes are controlled by the US Army
Corp of Engineers. They maintain one of more offices in every state around
here.


FL here, ACoE, Water Management Districts, some FL DEP, State, it's a
mess.

What got me interested was a poster who was claiming he liked the Icon
A5 which is built around the corner from me.

http://www.iconaircraft.com/

The statement was he thought it would be neat to be able to fly from
lake to lake or whatever, the idea of freedom of access to many
waterbodies (the sports, shores, camping, etc). Sounded nice to me as
well but practical?
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Old September 2nd 08, 10:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Gezellig" wrote in message
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FL here, ACoE, Water Management Districts, some FL DEP, State, it's a
mess.

What got me interested was a poster who was claiming he liked the Icon
A5 which is built around the corner from me.

http://www.iconaircraft.com/

The statement was he thought it would be neat to be able to fly from
lake to lake or whatever, the idea of freedom of access to many
waterbodies (the sports, shores, camping, etc). Sounded nice to me as
well but practical?


I don't know what the Corp's policy is today, but they do have regs that
forbid air delivery on Corp property and lakes, without a permit granted
days in advance. Unless it was an established seaplane base.

I have seen ultralights at the lakes on floats, but have no idea if any have
been stopped or fined.


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Old September 3rd 08, 04:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sep 1, 8:33 pm, (Drew Dalgleish)
wrote:
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 17:36:24 -0400, Gezellig
wrote:

Who determines where you can or cannot land one?


In Canada it's the pilot.


Not everywhere. See http://www.qp.gov.bc.ca/statreg/reg/....htm#ScheduleA
for restrictions in B.C.

Dan

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Old September 3rd 08, 10:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 20:58:48 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sep 1, 8:33 pm, (Drew Dalgleish)
wrote:
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 17:36:24 -0400, Gezellig
wrote:

Who determines where you can or cannot land one?


In Canada it's the pilot.


Not everywhere. See
http://www.qp.gov.bc.ca/statreg/reg/....htm#ScheduleA
for restrictions in B.C.

Dan

Yeah there's always exceptions. I'm in Ontario and most of the
provincial parks here are closed as well. With so many lakes available
it really isn't an issue for me. This morning I was doing touch and
goes on lake huron at grand bend. Beutiful flat almost glassy water.
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Old September 2nd 08, 05:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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Gezellig wrote:
Who determines where you can or cannot land one?



I'd have to say that the local approach control will have jurisdiction
(if the body of water you want to land on happens to be in controlled
airspace). Otherwise it's "keep your eye out for deadheads" (and
deadbeat boat drivers) - at least in Canada.
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Old September 2nd 08, 02:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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Frank Olson wrote:
Otherwise it's "keep your eye out for deadheads" (and
deadbeat boat drivers) - at least in Canada.


Yes. One cottage owner was steering his boat into floatplanes to thwart
them from landing. He also called and complained that the plane operator
was at fault and cutting off his boat. Witness' proved otherwise.

He was a summer owner from the US.

Tourists.

 




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