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The empire was an idea who's time had past, Britains
didnt want to be the slavemasters of the world. Really?,I think the British empire officially ended during Suez crisis when US told British rather unexpectedly (at least for the Brits) "stay at home or else". US engagement in WWII had two goals: 1)Defeating Nazi Germany 2)Destroying British Empire Till Suez crisis Brits hoped that US might want to forget second goal,but US had other plans. |
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"Denyav" wrote in message ... The empire was an idea who's time had past, Britains didnt want to be the slavemasters of the world. Really?,I think the British empire officially ended during Suez crisis when US told British rather unexpectedly (at least for the Brits) "stay at home or else". Hardly, Egypt had been grantd full independence before Suez, the intervention was over Egyptian nationlisation of the canal. Just as the US has intervened to protect the Panama canal US engagement in WWII had two goals: 1)Defeating Nazi Germany 2)Destroying British Empire ISTR a little matter of revenging Pearl Harbor Till Suez crisis Brits hoped that US might want to forget second goal,but US had other plans. You are fantasizing again I fear By the time of Suez, India and Pakistan were independent and the remaining colonies were already in the process of getting independence. The time table for Malayan and Singaporean Independence was agreed in 1955 for example. Keith ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ...
"Denyav" wrote in message ... US engagement in WWII had two goals: 1)Defeating Nazi Germany 2)Destroying British Empire ISTR a little matter of revenging Pearl Harbor Keith =--- Pearl Harbor was only allowed to happen to realize above given broader political goals. BTW the killing of their own or allowing others to kill Americans to realize broder political goals is a traditional American PSYOP and usually it works. Remember Maine Remember Pearl Harbor Remember 9/11 |
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"denyav" wrote in message om... "Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ... "Denyav" wrote in message ... US engagement in WWII had two goals: 1)Defeating Nazi Germany 2)Destroying British Empire ISTR a little matter of revenging Pearl Harbor Keith =--- Pearl Harbor was only allowed to happen to realize above given broader political goals. Yeah right, sending the message to Pearl that started 'This message is to be considered a war warning' is real proof of that huh ? Sheesh what a maroon, what an ultra-maroon Keith ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Den wrote:
Pearl Harbor was only allowed to happen to realize above given broader political goals. Allow a major part of our fleet to be damaged or sunk, lose countless bases and thousands of POWs and civilians in the Pacific to the Japanese, in order to do *what* to Hitler? He declared war on us, not the other way around. Does your statement make sense to you? BTW the killing of their own or allowing others to kill Americans to realize broder political goals is a traditional American PSYOP and usually it works. Remember Maine A century old accident in a powder magazine is still providing grist for rumor-mongers? Goebbels would be so proud. Remember Pearl Harbor We do. Its been dissected and examined under thousands of literary microscopes - and you know what? It was the Japanese that attacked us. Who knew? Remember 9/11 I remember it well. Not your version of it, but what really happened. People who hated us used our open society to their advantage and made us pay greatly for our previous freedoms. No where during that event was there any occurance that match your criteria of Americans killing Americans for political gain. Gordon |
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"Denyav" wrote in message ... The empire was an idea who's time had past, Britains didnt want to be the slavemasters of the world. Really?,I think the British empire officially ended during Suez crisis when US told British rather unexpectedly (at least for the Brits) "stay at home or else". US engagement in WWII had two goals: 1)Defeating Nazi Germany 2)Destroying British Empire Till Suez crisis Brits hoped that US might want to forget second goal,but US had other plans. US engagement in WW2 was in response to an attack just before a declaration of war by Japan and another attack just after a declaration of war by Germany. Please read some history. |
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US engagement in WW2 was in response to an attack just before a declaration
of war by Japan and another attack just after a declaration of war by Germany. 1)If you read some history,you must know that FDR was very eager for US engagement. 2)If you read history you must also know that that FDR promised the nation not enter war unless attacked (a requirement of domestic politics) A solution to satisfy two contradictionary requirements=The Pearl Harbor trap Pearl Harbor was only one of US (Union) vaccination operations. Short history of US (Union) is full of such operations ,like Ft.Sumter,Maine,Pearl Harbor,9/11 you name it. If Hitler'd won the war , Nazi version of Reichstag fire would be the official version.period. Reading history from the books is by no means enough,one must learn to "read" events themselves. |
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"Denyav" wrote in message ... US engagement in WW2 was in response to an attack just before a declaration of war by Japan and another attack just after a declaration of war by Germany. 1)If you read some history,you must know that FDR was very eager for US engagement. 2)If you read history you must also know that that FDR promised the nation not enter war unless attacked (a requirement of domestic politics) A solution to satisfy two contradictionary requirements=The Pearl Harbor trap and so you head off into the land of the lunatics. Pearl Harbor was only one of US (Union) vaccination operations. Short history of US (Union) is full of such operations ,like Ft.Sumter,Maine,Pearl Harbor,9/11 you name it. If Hitler'd won the war , Nazi version of Reichstag fire would be the official version.period. Reading history from the books is by no means enough,one must learn to "read" events themselves. Or to put another way, paranoid dip****s like yourself learn to "read" anything that matches your delusions into being "truth". What an "interesting" world you must inhabit, where your totally unsupported opinion = "truth". The other name for that condition is "insanity". |
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