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So you are his interpreter? He specifically asked
"an MOA means radar coverage?" answer is MOA - military operations area That was easy. Lets see: "MOA means radar coverage?" and "...there's a lot of MOAs and that means radar coverage" Hrm. sounds the same to me....and I didn't even have to use the transitive property. BTW, I love amateur smart asses. I'm an accomplished one with many enemies to prove it. |
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"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
news:20040305081747.4c6d788b@fstop... [...] You are both rather priggish. Check my response to OP and, if you want to, prove to me that MOAs don't have radar coverage. In other words: you have no clue as to whether MOA airspace in the US has 100% radar coverage. Just as I thought. Thanks for clarifying. Pete |
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"R. Hubbell" wrote in message why you think every MOA has radar coverage. You are both rather priggish. Check my response to OP and, if you want to, prove to me that MOAs don't have radar coverage. -------------------------------------------------- We will prove it to you right after you prove that there is no Easter Bunny. OTOH, the proof that the existence of an MOA implies radar coverage lies with you, since you made the assertion. You are the only person around here that believes this, so your job will not be easy, especially since many of us are former and active military, many others are flight instructors and still others are career pilots. We all actually know what we are talking about. We are trying not to be too hard on you. It is obvious that you are probably just a kid, immature and not too knowledgeable about how the world really works. Nevertheless, you have to grow up some time and recognize that you know a whale of a lot less than you think you know. Please, can the sarcasm and try a little humility for a change. |
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the problem in this area, arizona, NM, southern california, nevada, is that the mountains block
allot of the coverage unless you are high. You can be flying into las vegas from the west, about 15 miles or so away from LAS ( las vegas international) and LAS cant see you. same goes with flying into henderson from the SE. There is allot of dead space unless your above 10,000 ft. where this guy went down at, near primm, there is I-15 not far away, he had just passed Jean airport, it was about 5 -8 minutes away. if he was low, then no one may have seen hi on radar. plus that may have been aroudn the time that winter storm was passing through with freezing levels from the surface up and clouds covering the mountains. "R. Hubbell" wrote: On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 23:26:27 -0800 "C J Campbell" wrote: "R. Hubbell" wrote in message news:20040303194733.3b99a3f5@fstop... An unfortunate end to a plane gone missing: http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho.../23314333.html Interesting that they used radar signals to find the crash site. I thought they would always do that. It is extremely difficult to sort out the all those planes squawking 1200; even harder to pick out traces of airplanes with no transponders. They are analyzing the radar tracks to find an airplane that went missing in this area recently. It will probably take several days, if not weeks, with a poor chance of success. There are still large areas of the country without radar coverage of any kind, especially in the West in the mountain regions. I think there is a lot more radar coverage than what you might think. Out west there's a lot of MOAs and that means radar coverage, I don't know if the military will share that data, but I suspect they would for SAR OPS. R. Hubbell |
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How on earth did it lead to these? :-)
Paul "John Clear" wrote in message ... The false alarm 121.5 signals led to: - a fax machine - a pizza oven |
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Paul Sengupta wrote: How on earth did it lead to these? :-) Somebody stuck an ELT in them? George Patterson Battle, n; A method of untying with the teeth a political knot that would not yield to the tongue. |
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In article ,
Paul Sengupta wrote: "John Clear" wrote in message ... The false alarm 121.5 signals led to: - a fax machine - a pizza oven How on earth did it lead to these? :-) They were a carrier only signals (basically similar to a stuck mike). Electronics that are misbehaving can have a harmonic on 121.5mhz or other frequencies. I'm not a EE, so I don't know all the details. Maybe Jim Weir can fill us in. I should add an arcade machine to that list of weird 121.5 signals. John -- John Clear - http://www.panix.com/~jac |
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It would be interesting if they would have mentioned what his altimeter was
indicating. PJ ================================== "John Clear" wrote in message ... The radar tracks showed the plane flying at 11,500ft, and ended at a 12,000ft mountain. The NTSB number for this accident is SEA98FA161 or follow the link http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...11X10951&key=1 |
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"PJ Hunt" wrote in message
... It would be interesting if they would have mentioned what his altimeter was indicating. How would they know? |
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"Peter Duniho"
It would be interesting if they would have mentioned what his altimeter was indicating. How would they know? I think they can usually determine where the needle was at impact because it makes some sort of mark on the face. G-force and all. I guess that assumes that it didn't all burn and melt. Always an interesting question. |
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