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Typical News Reporting on an accident
Mxsmanic wrote in
: writes: Note that the "engine" stalled as a result of flying into a box canyon... http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/s...-valley_co.138 39aa8.html The reporters never seem to get that a stall has nothing to do with the engine. Unfortunately, journalists cannot be specialists in everything, so they often get all sorts of things wrong. Just like you Except you're not a journalist. and not a pilot.. Bertie |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: writes: The reporters never seem to get that a stall has nothing to do with the engine. They were quoting a passenger, and the passenger apparently said the engine stalled, which could well be a cause for a crash (whereas an aerodynamic stall should not have been). Small aircraft often have engine problems, unfortunately. No, they don't, fjukkwit Bertie |
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Mxsmanic wrote: Small aircraft often have engine problems, unfortunately. Evidence ? Or are you just spamming the newsgroup again? |
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Typical News Reporting on an accident
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
... What makes you so certain it was an aerodynamic stall? That type of stall normally does not cause a crash. You're trying to apply your limited knowledge to the rest of the world again. Stalls certainly do cause crashes. BTW, when the engine 'stalls', we call it an engine failure, to avoid confusion. The stalling of an engine, however, which is apparently what the passenger mentioned, could easily cause a crash or make one more likely. If the passenger had any flight experience, which is likely for any GA passenger, they too would have used the correct term (engine failure). |
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Typical News Reporting on an accident
On Jun 19, 4:24 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
What makes you so certain it was an aerodynamic stall? That type of stall normally does not cause a crash. The stalling of an engine, however, which is apparently what the passenger mentioned, could easily cause a crash or make one more likely. A) I made no comment on this particular accident, my comments were in regard to blame being apportioned to reporters for inaccurate analysis of accidents. B) An engine stall (failure) is very likely to result in a forced landing, but not necessarily a crash. C) An aerodynamic stall is benign if you expect it, if on the other hand it happens while you are in a high angle of attach mode of flight due to attempting a far too hasty and high G 180 out of a boxed canyon which you have suddenly found yourself in the wrong end of (as the article posted implies), is quite likely to result in a spin at low alititude followed by a very distinct crash. A forced landing you usually walk away from, a crash you often get carried away in a bag. Going by the very brief article, it seems much more likely that this is a case of aerodynamic stall than engine failure as was reported. |
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Typical News Reporting on an accident
On Jun 19, 11:44 pm, James Sleeman wrote:
A) I made no comment on this particular accident, my comments To stymie any rebuttal of that statement, re-reading my original comment, the statement was not entirely accurate, however my intention was not to pass any judgement on the causes of the accident in question but to condition the assertion by the thread starter that "The reporters never seem to get that a stall has nothing to do with the engine." |
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Typical News Reporting on an accident
He is not a journalist- he does not have nor can he hold on to any kind of
regular employment. However, he is smarter and more educated than everyone else in the world, and won't hesitate to tell us. Why he continues to dominate this and other newgroups is baffling. |
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Typical News Reporting on an accident
"El Maximo" wrote in message ... Unfortunately, journalists cannot be specialists in everything, so they often get all sorts of things wrong. Are you a journalist? I'm a former journalist with a degree in technical journalism. There is no part of the curriculum or stylebook pertaining to aviation and at no point does somebody come up to a student journalist or young reporter and say "Look, you guys. It's called an engine failure. Not an engine stall..." Almost all journalists use the Associated Press Stylebook or something equivalent. Perhaps there's a need for an technological addition to the stylebook, or a journalist's quick reference guide. It could include nautical and aeronautical terms and concepts for aviation, boating and other transportation--(is it "semi" "big-rig", "eighteen-wheeler", "tractor-trailor"....) etc. That might fix a lot of things. -c Hmmm...what might a commercial pilot with a journalism degree do to help rectify this situation? |
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