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2020 Accidents & Insurance, usa
On Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 5:41:34 AM UTC-7, Tom wrote:
It’s not that we are pointing out lack of checklist discipline “ sanctimoniously”, it’s because when do a flight review or or other instruction with someone who has flown a single place ship for years I often see non-compliance, odd made up procedures or a complete breakdown of procedures. Pilots can and do get away with this, until they don’t. Checklists are not the only problem or answer but certainly if one treats it like a profession that lives are at risk around and no matter if they are paid or not act professionally the chances of a problem are less. If one isn’t interested in improving, learning or hearing then there’s not a lot we can do other than try to manage that on a operational level. Regards, Tom Humans make mistakes, its normal and natural. Two pilots help a lot, on the principle that they both won't make the same mistake at the same time. A pilot who makes a mistake is not suddenly 'a bad pilot'. |
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2020 Accidents & Insurance, usa
Absolutely true. We all make mistakes. The question is what then? Does one continue to make mistakes or does one analyze, learn and grow from the mistake? I’ve seen both. Fundamentally the human factor is the most uncontrollable element for aviation or any high reliability occupation/endeavor.
A valuable part of training is for a pilot to be able to understand their tendencies, weaknesses, strengths and to be able to be as objective as possible about what they need to work on. It’s not just a checklist or skill issue obviously. Skill, knowledge and judgement with judgement being the foundation. In a past job as an aviation accident investigator I saw a number pilots who were in complete ignorance or denial of their responsibility to know themselves and their limits. Regards, Tom |
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2020 Accidents & Insurance, usa
Do you train to avoid making mistakes or do you train as if you will make mistakes?
Who’s has the ultimate authority over glider operations in the US? The FAA, the pilot in command, the contest director, the SSA, SSF, club chief instructor, DPEs...? Stuff to think about |
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2020 Accidents & Insurance, usa
A glider pilot having a hand loosely on the release is good practice. A glider has options with an inadvertent release, while us tow pilots have very few with a low level kiting incident.
I can tell you I follow this practice when flying my glider. Also, when I am towing, once the throttle is wide open, my hand is loosely on the towplane release until I have a bunch of altitude beneath me! Absolutely nothing wrong with this procedure, in fact, highly recommended. |
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2020 Accidents & Insurance, usa
Rich, in my glider, i rest my fingers on the panel just above the release. That way it is readily available while there is zero chance of an inadvertent actuation. In the tow plane I do the same thing, with my hand resting against the side wall directly adjacent to the release. A little thought process applied to a guys particular release-set up will give him a solution to doing this practice safely.
Dan |
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2020 Accidents & Insurance, usa
Is there more info on the other accidents that happened this year even though the season barely started in most of the country?
Ramy |
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2020 Accidents & Insurance, usa
Russia stall/spin fatal on approach in Virginia (?)
Std Cirrus stall/spin fatal at Seminole Lake after premature release on tow. |
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2020 Accidents & Insurance, usa
On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 6:45:04 AM UTC-4, Dave Walsh wrote:
I've never heard of or seen an accidental release; doubtless they happen but the results are not, I assume, fatal for the poor tug pilot. A guy I knew accidentally released on tow and went into trees. I don't keep hand on release, but I do practice grabbing it to make sure I can do it quickly... |
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