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Old September 10th 03, 09:24 PM
Paul J. Adam
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In message , Peter Kemp
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 02:42:47 GMT, Chad Irby wrote:
The standard of training for most Iraqi troops was so pathetic that I
sorta *hope* the renegade types are out there trying to make bombs.
We'll be able to find them by the smoking craters that will appear
wherever their workshops were.


I take it you've not been keeping track of the news? Several intact
bomb makers and bomb making labs seized, no reports of own goals. You
may be overstating the case somewhat.


Well, the Guardian did a detailed report following up one own-goal: a
local criminal and tough guy blew himself and three friends up while
showing off the bomb he was going to kill some Americans with. So, the
Iraqi 'resistance' *are* losing a few to their own IEDs. Trouble is, the
rate's not high enough to prevent a lot of attempts and some successes.

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When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite.
W S Churchill

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Old September 11th 03, 12:59 AM
Peter Kemp
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:24:34 +0100, "Paul J. Adam"
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In message , Peter Kemp
writes
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 02:42:47 GMT, Chad Irby wrote:
The standard of training for most Iraqi troops was so pathetic that I
sorta *hope* the renegade types are out there trying to make bombs.
We'll be able to find them by the smoking craters that will appear
wherever their workshops were.


I take it you've not been keeping track of the news? Several intact
bomb makers and bomb making labs seized, no reports of own goals. You
may be overstating the case somewhat.


Well, the Guardian did a detailed report following up one own-goal: a
local criminal and tough guy blew himself and three friends up while
showing off the bomb he was going to kill some Americans with. So, the
Iraqi 'resistance' *are* losing a few to their own IEDs. Trouble is, the
rate's not high enough to prevent a lot of attempts and some successes.


Bomber own goals are perhaps the sweetest form of poetic justice.
Always leaves a smile on my face, right up there with suicide bombers
who fail to take anyone with them.

Peter Kemp
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Old September 12th 03, 06:24 PM
Jim
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Robert K. Dornen, U.S. Congressman. 1995
"David Bromage" wrote in message
.. .
Michael Williamson wrote:
On the subject of WMDs, however, it has been noted
that Iraq had 12 years of opportunity to prove that it had dismantled
its programs (as required by the ceasefire agreements), but many of
those same programs came to light in spite of, rather than due to,
the regime's actions in regard to inspections. The government of
Iraq declined all of their opportunities to do so, and eventually
paid the price.


In any civilised proceedings the onus of proof is (or should be) on the
plaintif.

Cheers
David


Generally agreeded.
However in this case there is undisputable proof he had WMD and had in fact
used them.
At this point the burdin of proof shifted. The plantif needed to show no
longer had them.


A note weather he had WMD wasn't debated or considered an item of contention
by any country.
The debate was on the methiod or riding him of them.

Jim


 




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