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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:k4Vge.77243$WI3.40856@attbi_s71... There are very good reasons that car insurance for 17 year old boys costs exponentially more than for adults. Does aviation insurance cost any more for 17-year-olds than for adults? |
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There are very good reasons that car insurance for 17 year old boys costs
exponentially more than for adults. Does aviation insurance cost any more for 17-year-olds than for adults? Actually, it will cost less to put my son on our flight insurance than it will to add him to our 8-year old Subaru insurance. (The insurance agent only laughed when we asked about adding him to our Mustang convertible... ;-) I'm hoping that this says that teenage pilots are better than teenage drivers. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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I'm hoping that this says that teenage pilots are better than teenage
drivers. I think with the amount of time, effort, and money put toward earning a private pilot certificate that one gains more of a sense of ownership of that privelege than one does when "earning" a driver's license. Most kids think of a dl as an entitlement, a rite of passage. Doubtful they look upon flying with the same carefree attitude. Still, you're right about the youthful indiscretions, but I wouldn't be too quick to judge _all_ 17 year boys by that standard. I certainly never took risks when driving at that age, but I consider myself more the boring exception to the rule. |
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Just make sure that they don't try flying across one of the great
lakes, especially at night. |
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would you trust the two of them together in a sports car?
BT "anon" wrote in message news Our 17 year old son want to fly as a passenger with his 17 year old friend who is a brand new pilot. We think the boy is level-headed and mature. He grew up flying with his dad who is a retired test pilot for an aircraft manufacturer. These credentials not withstanding, I'm guessing that there is increased risk of accidents with new pilots. We are uncomfortable about letting him fly with his friend, but we want to be reasonable. I would appreciate any data or guidance this group could provide. Thanks Peter |
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Still, you're right about the youthful indiscretions, but I wouldn't be
too quick to judge _all_ 17 year boys by that standard. I certainly never took risks when driving at that age, but I consider myself more the boring exception to the rule. I was an exceptionally cautious driver at age 17, too. But that's only because at age 15 I stole my mother's car, and went joy riding with three friends -- one of whom proceeded to wrap that car around an oak tree. It was a grave, nearly fatal lesson to be learned, the hard way, indeed... And one I hope no one else ever has to learn. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message news
Gosh, why limit it to flying? Why not insist on video surveillance whenever he's in a car, or for that matter any time he's with friends and might engage in dangerous drug use or unprotected sex? Or better yet, be sure to accompany him in person whenever he goes out. Preferably attached by a handcuff, in case he tries to slip away. You can never be too careful with 17-year-olds. Good suggestion, but the original question was about flying... One would suspect that he's already taken appropriate measures for the other things in life that cause him concern... |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:bkVge.74706$r53.48513@attbi_s21...
I'm hoping that this says that teenage pilots are better than teenage drivers. Or the sample size is not large enough for the insurace companies to draw meaningful statistics... Frankly, there's probably not a high percentage of teenage pilots... Flying is expensive and most teenagers don't have the money to do it... On top of that, most don't have the perseverance to complete something as lengthy as getting a PPL anyway... |
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On Thu, 12 May 2005 23:22:24 -0400, "Gary Drescher"
wrote: "Peter" wrote in message ... Gary Drescher wrote: The standard reference for small-plane safety statistics is the Air Safety Foundation's Nall Report (http://www.aopa.org/asf/publications/03nall.pdf). As far as I know, there are no good statistics about the safety of new pilots vs. more-experienced pilots. That report includes the statement that "ASF studies have shown that low pilot time in type is often a significant contributing factor in accidents." But I didn't see any specific data there to back it up. Yup. Plus, low time in type is different from being recently licensed as a pilot. "It seems" as if I read some where a freshly minted pilot is one of the safest times, but ... that is an old and foggy memory. One of the worst times is some where around 500 hours. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com The accompanying chart plots a histogram of accidents vs. PIC hours of experience but unfortunately doesn't normalize it to the number of pilots in each band and the number of hours flown by them. Yup. Paul Craig's book The Killing Zone has the same problem. Without normalization, the data tell us nothing about how safety might vary as a function of experience. --Gary |
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