Old airframe, new engine

James Woody wrote:

I did not see it listed on the web site.
http://www.combatairmuseum.org/aircraft.htm

Any other information on this bird?

Woody

Dug through my photos from the trip. 66-268 looks to be a C/D with a
Mig kill on 12 Oct 1972. Left side painted as it was when assigned to
SEA, right side painted when assigned to KS ANG. The aircraft is decked
out for air defense with drop tanks, 4 x sidewinder, and 4 x sparrow.

Don't have access to binary groups through my ISP or I'd post photos.
If you are interested in photos, I can email them. (I remove the
NOTAT?)

MAH

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:44:58 -0500, mah wrote:

Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal wrote:

On 10/14/03 11:05 AM, in article
, "R"
wrote:


"Jim Strand" wrote in message
...
Every year or so I post a similar version of this. Always nice to see
SNIP

For me the winner would be the F-8. You never forget your first love.
Whether it was climbing out of Key West after a Cuban MIG, doing a vertical
pass on a Bear, or flying under the power lines in southern California

Something tells me that "under" the power lines was once an "over" but
became an "under" over time.

Check out the F-4 at the Combat Air Museum in Toopeka KS. It is called
the Wichita Lineman since it came back from a mission streaming cable
from the vertical stabilizer.

MAH

There's an account of a Su-24 Fencer picking up a piece of fence at
the end of a runway in Afganistan and completing the mission with said
fence attached to the aircraft.

For me the winner would be the F-8. You never forget your first love.
Whether it was climbing out of Key West after a Cuban MIG, doing a
vertical
pass on a Bear, or flying under the power lines in southern California
trying to sneak up on Yuma it was great aircraft.

Well, the F-8U3 had a J-75 tuned to 29,000 lbs of thrust ... that might have
granted your wish. Of course, it would have retained the Gator's endearing
flying qualities at the blunt end of the boat.

No jet ever made (or that ever will be made) had enough power.

R / John

No jet ever made (or that ever will be made) had enough power.

Possible exception of the F/A-22 Raptor under current conditions...
_____________
José Herculano

HABU, HABU, HABU....



José Herculano wrote:
No jet ever made (or that ever will be made) had enough power.


Possible exception of the F/A-22 Raptor under current conditions...
_____________
José Herculano

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:41:47 +0100, "José Herculano"
wrote:

No jet ever made (or that ever will be made) had enough power.

Possible exception of the F/A-22 Raptor under current conditions...

How about the big black twin two-seater I used to work on? Whatever
its limitations, lack of thrust wasn't one.

It's not every airplane that can burn 85,000 lb of fuel in just over
an hour, you know.

Mary

--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

Mary -
Is there any sensible reason why your airframe was retired from
service when it still seemed to be viable?

Was it only a money issue or is there more to it than that?

Regards,

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:10:02 -0700, Mary Shafer
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:41:47 +0100, "José Herculano"
wrote:

No jet ever made (or that ever will be made) had enough power.

Possible exception of the F/A-22 Raptor under current conditions...

How about the big black twin two-seater I used to work on? Whatever
its limitations, lack of thrust wasn't one.

It's not every airplane that can burn 85,000 lb of fuel in just over
an hour, you know.

Mary

Mary Shafer wrote in message . ..
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:41:47 +0100, "José Herculano"
wrote:

No jet ever made (or that ever will be made) had enough power.

Possible exception of the F/A-22 Raptor under current conditions...

How about the big black twin two-seater I used to work on? Whatever
its limitations, lack of thrust wasn't one.

It's not every airplane that can burn 85,000 lb of fuel in just over
an hour, you know.

Mary

Come on, Mary; an F4 on the deck burns at the rate of 1500 a minute,
90,000 an hour, and even goes a lot faster than the 71 down there. Of
course, it'll be dry in about 7 minutes (clean), but it's a great ride
to bingo. Once I took an F4D up for a test hop for a rudder actuator
change. (Fly; if it's ok, land.)The original one had cracked and
leaked red fluid all over . . . . the crew chief asked me to get the
residual hydraulic fluid out of the aft section. Flat out around 750
KIAS at 100 ASL off shore of Kunsan Korea did a good job of blowing it
dry. The fuel state visibly reduces, too.
Walt BJ

"John Carrier" wrote in message
...
For me the winner would be the F-8. You never forget your first love.
Whether it was climbing out of Key West after a Cuban MIG, doing a
vertical
pass on a Bear, or flying under the power lines in southern California
trying to sneak up on Yuma it was great aircraft.

Well, the F-8U3 had a J-75 tuned to 29,000 lbs of thrust ... that might
have
granted your wish. Of course, it would have retained the Gator's
endearing
flying qualities at the blunt end of the boat.

No jet ever made (or that ever will be made) had enough power.

R / John



Its been over 30 years, we don't remember how it was, only how it should
have been. The gator was perfect around the boat

Red

Its been over 30 years, we don't remember how it was, only how it should
have been. The gator was perfect around the boat

Perfectly unforgiving. It had the highest ramp strike rate of any tactical
aircraft that operated on angled deck carriers. There was a reason there
were no bad F-8 drivers.

R / John