Why Zuni?

Jim- What did a salvo launch look like? Was it a tight pattern, or were
there a
few strays? BRBR

I've blasted all 11(?) or so in one pod, of 2.75, on one wing, all at once.
Really impressive, makes the A/C yaw...and they go all over the place,
particularly if ya have one where all the fins don't come out.

Shot Zunis as well, one at a time, really much more accurate...
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

"Pechs1" wrote in message
I've blasted all 11(?) or so in one pod, of 2.75, on one wing, all at
once.
Really impressive, makes the A/C yaw...and they go all over the place,
particularly if ya have one where all the fins don't come out.

! ! !

The Canadian CRV-7 was termed the "Mighty Mouse", and was typically packed
into either LAU-5002's or LAU- 5003's (In the case of RNZAF A4's).

Regards

Mike
"Jim Carriere" wrote in message
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"Pechs1" wrote in message
I've blasted all 11(?) or so in one pod, of 2.75, on one wing, all at
once.
Really impressive, makes the A/C yaw...and they go all over the place,
particularly if ya have one where all the fins don't come out.

! ! !

Ed, '40 feet' was qualifying. But the pod rockets were sorry compared
to tube-launched ones out of the F86D and the F102. Rockets fired from
the Dog and Deuce could hit about as good as strafing. Our target on
Zulu-shima off Okinawa was 3 oil drums filled with sand stacked
together. The Dog could hit the fool things. Also, firing on the rag,
you could see the rockets cut a cross in it. We only fired 6 at a
time, though. Fired the Deuce on Patricia Target about 40 miles west
of Key West. It was an old WW2 destroyer beached by the Marquesas
Keys. WE went down to Homestead for the Cuban Crisis. Once down there
someone realized we needed the rocket tubes wired up - they'd clipped
the leads when we got the GAR11/AIM26A (Fat Falcon). Once that was
done, some kind soul decided they needed to be tested. So we fired
each of our 20 Deuces twice on Pat Target - what? No practice rockets
available? Okay, use ones with live warheads. Now, a 2.75 FFAR is
equivalent to a 75mm HE round - when we got through, what had looked
like the bridge of a ship was now a pile of scrap from. 20x12x2=480
rockets. (12 a sortie because the innermost 6 tubes -2 RX per tube-
were lost because of the girth of the Gar11.) Last time I saw Pattie
Target was in 1980 - it was a rusted layer of iron we had to chase
fishermen off of to bomb it with the deadly BDU33s and Mk106s. Mel
Fisher's boat marked the entry to the nuke run-in while salving the
Atocha galleon.
Walt BJ

Its been many moons since I fired a rocket (most inventories got combat
coded due to limited #s years ago), but...

....it was a Zuni pod at night, on the goggles -- ya-bleeping-hoo! When
fired in singles or small numbers, 2.75s always sounded like bottle rockets
(from the cockpit). Zunis were an entirely different animal.

A technical question for those that might know -- refresh my aging memory --
isn't the Zuni motor the same as that used on the Sidewinder...?

"Jim Carriere" wrote in message
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"Pechs1" wrote in message
I've blasted all 11(?) or so in one pod, of 2.75, on one wing, all at
once.
Really impressive, makes the A/C yaw...and they go all over the place,
particularly if ya have one where all the fins don't come out.

! ! !

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:20:29 -0500, Pechs1 wrote:

Jim- What did a salvo launch look like? Was it a tight pattern, or
were there a
few strays? BRBR

I've blasted all 11(?) or so in one pod, of 2.75, on one wing, all at
once. Really impressive, makes the A/C yaw...and they go all over the
place, particularly if ya have one where all the fins don't come out.

An acquaintance of mine was an A4 driver in SEA.
Said one time the mission he got the most satisfaction out
of was flying cover for rescue packages. His favorite load out
was a pile of Zunis. Said they tended to keep the enemies'
head down like nothing else.

IBM

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From the China Lake website:

"China Lake's 5-inch Zuni rocket was heavily used over the years. China Lake
was the lead laboratory for the 2.75 and Zuni developments. The Zuni, as
well as some other early unguided rockets, was originally conceived as an
air-to-air weapon, but the rocket's role evolved into that of an
air-to-ground weapon. Interestingly, the Zuni shot down a MiG-15 early in
the Vietnam War when the MiG let itself get ahead of an A1 Skyraider that
was trying to evade it. The Skyraider fired a Zuni and scored a hit. (circa
1956) "

So in response to the original poster's question...I don't know why they
called it Zuni, but someone who worked at China Lake in the 1950s would
probably know the answer. Or perhaps a current day China Laker who is
familiar with the history.

JD

(Elmshoot) wrote:

I was wondering the other day how the 2.75" Air to ground rocket came to be
named Zuni. Any experts that can help?
Sparky
Yes, I shot them from the A-6 what fun!!! Bottle rockets for adults

As has already been pointed out, the Zuni is the 5" FFAR.

I still have yet to hear back from my official query to China
Lake, but have heard back from an ex-bubblehead now working
there.

China Lake, under whatever their official name was at the time,
developed the 5" FFAR [and the 2.75" one, too, for that matter.]

It appears that the Zuni was named after the Zuni indian tribe,
which lived in the AZ/NM region, hard by [in continental terms]
China Lake.

[I thought, after all these "There I was at 20,000 feet ..." TINS
sea stories, someone ought to return to the original question.]
--
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It appears that the Zuni was named after the Zuni indian tribe,
which lived in the AZ/NM region, hard by [in continental terms]
China Lake.

[I thought, after all these "There I was at 20,000 feet ..." TINS
sea stories, someone ought to return to the original question.]
--
OJ III

Because everyone knows that the Zuni Indian tribe killed their enemies with
5" rockets.....

"Joe Delphi" wrote:

It appears that the Zuni was named after the Zuni indian tribe,
which lived in the AZ/NM region, hard by [in continental terms]
China Lake.

[I thought, after all these "There I was at 20,000 feet ..." TINS
sea stories, someone ought to return to the original question.]

Because everyone knows that the Zuni Indian tribe killed their enemies with
5" rockets.....

;-

I also said:

I still have yet to hear back from my official query to China
Lake, but have heard back from an ex-bubblehead now working
there.

I have now heard back [it was to the webmaster of their
history/museum site], confirming that it was the Indians.

He had a little stuff in it on their other FFAR efforts, and I've
asked him if I can post it here.
--
OJ III
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