This one super-bugs me...

On 7/21/04 1:31 PM, in article , "Yofuri"
wrote:

The only reason I recall for the Intruder was that the pilot couldn't reach
the trim breakers in case of runaway trim.

Rick

For the Intruder, every time you moved a bleed air switch or the "gang bar"
the B/N had to check the Bleed Air Circuit Breaker -- IN.

--Woody


"John Carrier" wrote in message
...
There were systems failure emergency action procedures steps in the
Tomcat
(and Intruder for that matter) that required a back (or right)-seater to
perform. Both of those aircraft are crew-served weapons systems.

For the F-14 none that I recall, but it's been a long time. OTOH, the IFF
is back there and the post start BITS (which are a prerequisite for
flight)
are initiated from the back seat.

A-6 and F-14 were designed for crew integration to a greater degree than
the
F-4 (which you could fly solo). Needless to say none of the three gave
the
pilot any significant control of the radar.

R / John

On 7/21/04 5:31 AM, in article , "John
Carrier" wrote:

There were systems failure emergency action procedures steps in the Tomcat
(and Intruder for that matter) that required a back (or right)-seater to
perform. Both of those aircraft are crew-served weapons systems.

For the F-14 none that I recall, but it's been a long time. OTOH, the IFF
is back there and the post start BITS (which are a prerequisite for flight)
are initiated from the back seat.

A-6 and F-14 were designed for crew integration to a greater degree than the
F-4 (which you could fly solo). Needless to say none of the three gave the
pilot any significant control of the radar.

R / John



I stand corrected. I thought I had heard in a past life that you had the
same bleed air C/B in the back that we had on the right side (in case of
bleed air leaks or fires).

--Woody

I stand corrected. I thought I had heard in a past life that you had the
same bleed air C/B in the back that we had on the right side (in case of
bleed air leaks or fires).

Maybe, but bleed air wasn't the source of paranoia (achieved the honest,
hard and fatal way I might add) it was in the A-6 community.

John

Jose- To my knowledge, there is nothing physical that mandates the RIO in
there for the Turkey to be flown in a demo - take off, do some aerobatics,
land... BRBR

Guy in the back needs to run OBC, run the ramps down and up, to be able to
safely fly the jet. I think the switch to stow the ramps mechanically is in the
trunk as well. Ya really need a RIO to fly the thing, plus somebody to borrow
money from.
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

Guy in the back needs to run OBC, run the ramps down and up, to be able
tosafely fly the jet. I think the switch to stow the ramps mechanically is in
thetrunk as well. Ya really need a RIO to fly the thing, plus somebody to
borrowmoney from.P. C. ChisholmCDR, USN(ret.)

Pechs,
I thought after you got money from him you also expected him to take the ugly
one as well.... Oh ya we are talking about fighter pilots. They both take the
ugly ones!
Sparky