NK Vario

On Sep 13, 12:28*pm, Mike wrote:
On Sep 13, 10:10*am, brianDG303 wrote:



On Sep 13, 7:30*am, Darryl Ramm wrote:

Well if the vario does not include a GPS and IGC flight recorder at
least as as an option that's likely the end of any interest for many
potential purchasers who are looking for a C302 replacement.

I know the NK CLearNav includes a GPS and flight recorder, if they
just want to sell varios to people who already own a ClearNav that a
fine, but a market limiting plan. I know they have been working with a
few people for product feedback but again with no market to damage
they could be getting very wide feedback from discussing specs more
openly.

So the next obvious question is is there a GPS option so the vario can
pass out enhanced NMEA data with wind and other data for PDA and other
flight computer users?

I'd also hope that a really new generation vario/flight computer would
be capable of pulling together air data etc. and logging that to the
IGC file for post-flight wind construction and other analysis.

Darryl

On Sep 13, 4:58*am, "Paul Remde" wrote:

Hi,

I heard from NK last week that they hope to be selling the vario in several
(3 to 4 months) and flight testing it in 4 to 6 weeks. *I imagine there will
be a beta test period, but NK has not mentioned that.

I don't know many details about it yet. *My understanding is that it will be
a speed-to-fly variometer with audio and averager and will communicate with
the ClearNav over the high-speed CANbus network. *It will not include a GPS
or logger.

I can't wait to fly with one.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde

"Darryl Ramm" wrote in message

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On Sep 12, 5:43 pm, brianDG303 wrote:

Does anyone have a clue as to the features of the NK vario? I even
looked on wikileaks- nothing.

I've heard unconfirmed rumors it is going to beep.

We are passing the point that not talking about features is harming
the NK story. Is it or is it not a real product? They have no current
vario product line to harm so some details and realistic schedule
setting cannot hurt.

Darryl

Darryl,
that is my feeling exactly, with that limited feature set I'll hope to
run GPS from Powerflarm and keep my B40, while waiting for a much
better vario option. Which might be more like the Tasman V2000
Variometer with FP10 Flight Pack than the described NK vario.

Check out the Westerboer VW1020 that connects with a VW1150 CANbus
unit (with adjustable baud rates) *for two way communication between
the Vario and a PDA, *being feed by the GPS. Recently purchased the
VW1020 and it is an excellent STF Vario with easy inputs for polars
and other flight parameters.

I hate to hijack the thread, but how did you set up the VW1020? It
looks
like it prefers to use electronic compensation; it doesn't have a
separate
static connection to figure out airspeed, e.g. One can connect it to
the
total energy probe, but the computed airspeed is going to be off.

-- Matt

On Sep 16, 12:53*pm, mattm wrote:
On Sep 13, 12:28*pm, Mike wrote:



On Sep 13, 10:10*am, brianDG303 wrote:

On Sep 13, 7:30*am, Darryl Ramm wrote:

Well if the vario does not include a GPS and IGC flight recorder at
least as as an option that's likely the end of any interest for many
potential purchasers who are looking for a C302 replacement.

I know the NK CLearNav includes a GPS and flight recorder, if they
just want to sell varios to people who already own a ClearNav that a
fine, but a market limiting plan. I know they have been working with a
few people for product feedback but again with no market to damage
they could be getting very wide feedback from discussing specs more
openly.

So the next obvious question is is there a GPS option so the vario can
pass out enhanced NMEA data with wind and other data for PDA and other
flight computer users?

I'd also hope that a really new generation vario/flight computer would
be capable of pulling together air data etc. and logging that to the
IGC file for post-flight wind construction and other analysis.

Darryl

On Sep 13, 4:58*am, "Paul Remde" wrote:

Hi,

I heard from NK last week that they hope to be selling the vario in several
(3 to 4 months) and flight testing it in 4 to 6 weeks. *I imagine there will
be a beta test period, but NK has not mentioned that.

I don't know many details about it yet. *My understanding is that it will be
a speed-to-fly variometer with audio and averager and will communicate with
the ClearNav over the high-speed CANbus network. *It will not include a GPS
or logger.

I can't wait to fly with one.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde

"Darryl Ramm" wrote in message

...
On Sep 12, 5:43 pm, brianDG303 wrote:

Does anyone have a clue as to the features of the NK vario? I even
looked on wikileaks- nothing.

I've heard unconfirmed rumors it is going to beep.

We are passing the point that not talking about features is harming
the NK story. Is it or is it not a real product? They have no current
vario product line to harm so some details and realistic schedule
setting cannot hurt.

Darryl

Darryl,
that is my feeling exactly, with that limited feature set I'll hope to
run GPS from Powerflarm and keep my B40, while waiting for a much
better vario option. Which might be more like the Tasman V2000
Variometer with FP10 Flight Pack than the described NK vario.

Check out the Westerboer VW1020 that connects with a VW1150 CANbus
unit (with adjustable baud rates) *for two way communication between
the Vario and a PDA, *being feed by the GPS. Recently purchased the
VW1020 and it is an excellent STF Vario with easy inputs for polars
and other flight parameters.

I hate to hijack the thread, but how did you set up the VW1020? *It
looks
like it prefers to use electronic compensation; it doesn't have a
separate
static connection to figure out airspeed, e.g. *One can connect it to
the
total energy probe, but the computed airspeed is going to be off.

-- Matt

Matt,

I did not have to do anything to set the TE up. It is near perfect out
of the box with my RS-15 after inputs for the wing loading and polars
were entered.

It should work fine without any major adjustment, but the adjustment
is in the menu structure and easy to find and do.

You can use your TE probe if you want. You connect it to the static
side of the VW1020 and have the compensation for the vario set to "1".
Using electronic compensation the setting is "0".

I wanted to have my mechanical on the probe and the VW1020 through
its electronic compensation. They both are the same (very minor
difference in response time) when compared to one another, and
accurate.

This is a great vario. If you are thinking of buying one, I do not
think you will be disappointed, and if you have one, just plug it in
and try it. It should be fine with little or no adjustments.

Mike "0"