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Old August 27th 03, 04:56 AM
Jay Honeck
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I suggested that when he went from his Warrior to the Pathfinder. Did he
take my advice then? Nooooo...


Hey, we absolutely LOVE our Pathfinder. Until the kids are grown, I simply
can't imagine another plane filling our needs as well as Atlas does -- he's
a brawny beast that will carry ANYTHING we can fit inside, relatively
quickly, in comfort, with a longer range than our bladders -- and he happily
sips that sweet car gas.

What else could we want?

Well, besides two more seats, of course!
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old August 27th 03, 05:10 AM
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Hey, we absolutely LOVE our Pathfinder. Until the kids are grown, I simply
can't imagine another plane filling our needs as well as Atlas does -- he's
a brawny beast that will carry ANYTHING we can fit inside, relatively
quickly, in comfort, with a longer range than our bladders -- and he happily
sips that sweet car gas.
What else could we want?
Well, besides two more seats, of course!


Obviously, the hotel business in Iowa City is quite profitable. :-)
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Old August 27th 03, 05:45 AM
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("john smith" wrote)
Obviously, the hotel business in Iowa City is quite profitable. :-)


Duh! The guy owns an airplane.

(Paraphrasing)
Don't talk about profits - talk about costs. Drive down the costs, and the
profits will take care of themselves. - Andrew Carnegie

At Oshkosh he sleeps in the rain/a tent, a mere 100 yards from a new Hilton
(controlling costs)

....but he eats meals at the Hilton.
(Costs, and waistlines, out of control!!)

He fly's back to Iowa City with a free pair of Lightspeeds offered to him.
(Hmm....profitable trip!)

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Montblack


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Old August 27th 03, 06:14 AM
Jay Honeck
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Duh! The guy owns an airplane.

Which means I'm perennially-but-happily destitute...

At Oshkosh he sleeps in the rain/a tent, a mere 100 yards from a new

Hilton
(controlling costs)


Bah. Our smallest $59.95 suite is bigger than their LARGEST suite, and they
have little-bitty 2-cup coffee makers in the room. I'd rather sleep in my
tent...

...but he eats meals at the Hilton.
(Costs, and waistlines, out of control!!)


Remember, it's all about avoiding Zaug's food. It was a sacrifice, but
someone had to make it...

He fly's back to Iowa City with a free pair of Lightspeeds offered to him.
(Hmm....profitable trip!)


Well, that would be true, except for the fact that -- because of
LightSpeed's generosity -- I felt like I had made a PROFIT on the trip.
This resulted in my purchasing WAY more GPS than I could afford -- which
resulted in my (once again) being perennially, but happily, broke...

This aviation thing is a terrible addiction...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old August 27th 03, 04:12 PM
Ross Richardson
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I am helping a friend build the Moose and it is 6 seater. He is putting
the radial engine on it. We have been at it since Nov of 2002.

Ross

Aaron Coolidge wrote:

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Isn't the Murphy Moose a 6-seater? How about that Lionheart biplane?


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Old August 27th 03, 06:22 PM
Frank Stutzman
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Jay wrote:

What else could we want?


Well, besides two more seats, of course!


Let me list a few things why two planes are better than one:

1) you can fly #2 when #1 is in for a long annual
2) if your spouse flys, there is no arguements about who is PIC
3) if the above is true, you can go places in formation
4) plane #2 could be a plane that performs differently than #1 (e.g. #1 is
a cross country machine and #2 is a STOL on floats)
5) two planes probably arn't that much more expensive than a twin
6) with two planes you can dispose of income at twice the rate of one


I'm sure we can find more...




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Frank Stutzman
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl" (still the only one in the hanger, sigh)
Hood River, OR

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Old August 27th 03, 10:07 PM
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Web pics?

How far along is the project? How far to go ....in years g.

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Montblack

"Ross Richardson"
I am helping a friend build the Moose and it is 6 seater. He is putting
the radial engine on it. We have been at it since Nov of 2002.



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Old August 28th 03, 06:42 AM
C J Campbell
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"Aaron Coolidge" wrote in message
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| The TBM-700. The Cessna 208 Caravan (OK, it's an 8-seater).

Actually, the Caravan has eight passenger seats and two pilot seats. If not
flown in the US, the Caravan can have two more seats.


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Old August 28th 03, 06:08 PM
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It's one of those 80% done with 80% to go. No web pictures. We are at
the point of doing all the controls. The aircraft is on wheels. But
there is a lot more to do. This started as a quick build, ha.

Ross

Montblack wrote:

Web pics?

How far along is the project? How far to go ....in years g.

--
Montblack

"Ross Richardson"
I am helping a friend build the Moose and it is 6 seater. He is putting
the radial engine on it. We have been at it since Nov of 2002.

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Old August 28th 03, 07:46 PM
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On 28-Aug-2003, Thomas Borchert wrote:

How about the Extra 400.


Have you checked useful load? Have you checked financial status of the
company? Have you looked at it? ;-)

Seriously, that thing has totally marginal useful load. With full fuel,
even the pilot will only fit in barely.



According to Extra's web site, the EA400 has:

Useful Load: 1,254 lbs
Maximum Cruise Speed: 220 KTAS
Fuel (usable): 107 gals
Cruise Fuel Burn: 23 gal/hr

Payload with full fuel is thus 612 lbs, or 3 adults plus baggage. The
bigger problem with limited useful load is the hefty 23 gph cruise fuel
consumption. That limits endurance to about 3 hrs with IFR reserves, not
nearly enough for a high-flying pressurized plane. A fuel stop would be
needed for a trip longer than about 650 nm. Bigger tanks would help, but
then you WOULD be looking at marginal payload.

-Elliott Drucker
 




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