dream upgrade

Yes you can put in a 180 ph engine. I have one in my '65 model and
turning a C/S prop. Check http://www.airplains.com/. The downside with
our models is that you cannot get a GW weight increase and we are still
limited to 36 gallons of LL. I love my configuration. But, my conversion
is a Bush/Doyn and I would not recommend that only because of the
owners. I am not sure it is even still available.

Contact me if you would like more information.

Rosspilot wrote:

Assuming it's time for overhaul . . .

With a 1967 H-model Skyhawk, does anyone on this NG know what the most powerful
replacement/upgrade can be added to this airframe?

I have the 145 HP Cont O-300 . . . would LOVE to get to 180 HP . . . can it be
done?

www.Rosspilot.com

Ross Richardson wrote in message ...
Yes you can put in a 180 ph engine. I have one in my '65 model and
turning a C/S prop. Check http://www.airplains.com/. The downside with
our models is that you cannot get a GW weight increase and we are still
limited to 36 gallons of LL. I love my configuration. But, my conversion
is a Bush/Doyn and I would not recommend that only because of the
owners. I am not sure it is even still available.

The other downside is the conversion cost. Going from the
Continental to the Lycoming requires the replacement of just about
everything forward of the firewall, including the nose gear.
Converting Lyc. 150/160 hp 172 to 180 hp is a lot easier and less
expensive.

I had a 145 hp 172 and this was my dream conversion. I needed the
extra climb performance in the backcountry. Unfortunately, the price
was way out of my ballpark. For the Continental conversions, I've
found that it's usually cheaper to buy one that's already been
converted.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

Mine was also done when I bought it. I'm not sure the nose gear was
replaced, though. New engine mount, yes.

Ross

John Galban wrote:

Ross Richardson wrote in message ...
Yes you can put in a 180 ph engine. I have one in my '65 model and
turning a C/S prop. Check http://www.airplains.com/. The downside with
our models is that you cannot get a GW weight increase and we are still
limited to 36 gallons of LL. I love my configuration. But, my conversion
is a Bush/Doyn and I would not recommend that only because of the
owners. I am not sure it is even still available.

The other downside is the conversion cost. Going from the
Continental to the Lycoming requires the replacement of just about
everything forward of the firewall, including the nose gear.
Converting Lyc. 150/160 hp 172 to 180 hp is a lot easier and less
expensive.

I had a 145 hp 172 and this was my dream conversion. I needed the
extra climb performance in the backcountry. Unfortunately, the price
was way out of my ballpark. For the Continental conversions, I've
found that it's usually cheaper to buy one that's already been
converted.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

Rosspilot wrote:
Assuming it's time for overhaul . . .

With a 1967 H-model Skyhawk, does anyone on this NG know what the most powerful
replacement/upgrade can be added to this airframe?

I have the 145 HP Cont O-300 . . . would LOVE to get to 180 HP . . . can it be
done?

Someone else said, "Why would you want to go from a smooth running, fuel
sipping six cylinder to a vibrating, fuel gulping four cylinder?"

I agree, especially when you can go to a smooth running, fuel sipping
six cylinder that has 220 hp. The Franklin 220 is STCed for your 172, I
believe. Check out http://franklinengines.com/cessna.cfm

Don't know the cost. I have one friend who installed a Franklin 220 in
his 170A. I think it set him back about $25,000 total.

--
David Hill
david at hillREMOVETHISfamily.org
Sautee-Nacoochee, GA, USA

The Franklin 220 is STCed for your 172, I
believe. Check out http://franklinengines.com/cessna.cfm

Don't know the cost. I have one friend who installed a Franklin 220 in
his 170A. I think it set him back about $25,000 total.


Wow! This one looks great.
www.Rosspilot.com

David Hill wrote in message .. .

Someone else said, "Why would you want to go from a smooth running, fuel
sipping six cylinder to a vibrating, fuel gulping four cylinder?"

I agree, especially when you can go to a smooth running, fuel sipping
six cylinder that has 220 hp. The Franklin 220 is STCed for your 172, I
believe. Check out http://franklinengines.com/cessna.cfm

Don't know the cost. I have one friend who installed a Franklin 220 in
his 170A. I think it set him back about $25,000 total.

Good one! I'd forgotten about the Franklin option. I flew one of
these several years ago. Taking off from 7,000 MSL it was climbing
like a 182 at sea level. 10 less horsepower than a 182 with the
airframe weight of a 172. I liked it.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

I checked in with Air Plains today . . . they are offering to install a 180 HP
Lycoming O-360 A4 for $35K and I have to give them my Cont O-300. It's a
complete firewall forward change . . . takes a week in their shop. They will
also ship everything needed to do the upgrade to my mechanic for $30,000 (and I
have to send them the old engine and prop, etc).

Cost/benefit seems way out of line at first look . . . still exploring the
Franklin 220 . . . no response from them yet.


www.Rosspilot.com

Penn Yan used to do these conversions also. Might do a search.

Ross


Rosspilot wrote:

I checked in with Air Plains today . . . they are offering to install a 180 HP
Lycoming O-360 A4 for $35K and I have to give them my Cont O-300. It's a
complete firewall forward change . . . takes a week in their shop. They will
also ship everything needed to do the upgrade to my mechanic for $30,000 (and I
have to send them the old engine and prop, etc).

Cost/benefit seems way out of line at first look . . . still exploring the
Franklin 220 . . . no response from them yet.

www.Rosspilot.com

ospam (Rosspilot) wrote in
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Cost/benefit seems way out of line at first look . . . still exploring
the Franklin 220 . . . no response from them yet.

http://franklinengines.com/220HP.cfm

--
John Godwin
Silicon Rallye Inc.

(remove SPAMNOT from email address)

If Franklin is the one that is being manufactured in Europe somewhere,
Poland I think I heard, they are belly up.

John Godwin wrote:

ospam (Rosspilot) wrote in
:


Cost/benefit seems way out of line at first look . . . still exploring
the Franklin 220 . . . no response from them yet.


http://franklinengines.com/220HP.cfm