Real-world IFR currency

The regs say no. That's why many use hoods and safety pilots to keep
current.

Here in TN, we seem to get enough actual to stay current. That's not to say
I don't do recurrent training. The Beech Proficient Pilot program is great
for me.

Thx, {|;-)

Victor J. (Jim) Osborne, Jr.

Victor J. Osborne, Jr. wrote:
The regs say no. That's why many use hoods and safety pilots to keep
current.

Which specific regs?

Hilton

Victor J. Osborne, Jr. wrote:
The regs say no. That's why many use hoods and safety pilots to keep
current.

Sure wish you'd include a little context from the posting you are replying to so
I'd have some idea what you are talking about. You can't depend on people seeing
the same sequence of postings that you see, and just backing up one posting. The
order of arrival of postings is server-dependent. Thanks.

In article 1108486843.338708@sj-nntpcache-5, Dave Butler
wrote:

Victor J. Osborne, Jr. wrote:
The regs say no. That's why many use hoods and safety pilots to keep
current.

Sure wish you'd include a little context from the posting you are replying to
so
I'd have some idea what you are talking about. You can't depend on people
seeing
the same sequence of postings that you see, and just backing up one posting.
The
order of arrival of postings is server-dependent. Thanks.

The original question was: under what circumstances can an approach be
logged for the purposes of maintaining IFR currency? Obviously if
you're under the hood with a safety pilot or in hard IMC to minimums you
can log it, and if you're in VMC without a hood you can't. But where is
the line?

rg

There is no requirement to fly an approach "in hard IMC to minimums".

The last thing I saw published by tthe FAA was that the approach had merely
to be "initiated" in IMC to be loggable.


"Ron Garret" wrote in message
...
In article 1108486843.338708@sj-nntpcache-5, Dave Butler
wrote:

Victor J. Osborne, Jr. wrote:
The regs say no. That's why many use hoods and safety pilots to keep
current.

Sure wish you'd include a little context from the posting you are
replying to
so
I'd have some idea what you are talking about. You can't depend on
people
seeing
the same sequence of postings that you see, and just backing up one
posting.
The
order of arrival of postings is server-dependent. Thanks.

The original question was: under what circumstances can an approach be
logged for the purposes of maintaining IFR currency? Obviously if
you're under the hood with a safety pilot or in hard IMC to minimums you
can log it, and if you're in VMC without a hood you can't. But where is
the line?

rg

"Ron Garret" wrote in message
...

The original question was: under what circumstances can an approach be
logged for the purposes of maintaining IFR currency? Obviously if
you're under the hood with a safety pilot or in hard IMC to minimums you
can log it, and if you're in VMC without a hood you can't. But where is
the line?


I'd log the approaches that were necessary to complete the flight. If
there's solid cloud at or below the MIA/MVA an approach is necessary to
reach the destination, even if the field is VMC.

I prefer to send bare replies rather than include the orig. post. I seem to
spend all of my time scrolling down to the bottom of a lengthy post.

I had no idea someone would not have the reply post in hand or right above.

Perhaps I'll look at including the orig. post IF it's small.

Thx, {|;-)

Victor J. (Jim) Osborne, Jr.

"Victor J. Osborne, Jr." wrote in message
...
I prefer to send bare replies rather than include the orig. post. I seem
to spend all of my time scrolling down to the bottom of a lengthy post.

I had no idea someone would not have the reply post in hand or right
above.

Perhaps I'll look at including the orig. post IF it's small.

The problem with relying on the 'reply post in hand or right above', is that
posts travel the net from server to server along different paths. The
order in which they arrive at your server is not necessarily the order in
which they arrive at any other server. The order in which your response,
similarly, arrives at the other servers can vary from server to server.
The order of posts is indeterminate in the general case. The message to
which you are responding may well arrive at some servers *after* the
response, might not have arrived yet, or might never arrive at all.

News clients similarly affect the observed context - some clients deal with
threads better than others, Some people prefer to display their messages in
strict chronological order (in whatever terms that means for their server),
and the message 'right-above' might be way above, or way below whereas some
attempt to do so in a thread-context. Other responses to the original post
may well intervene. Some users also (me, for instance) turn on the "don't
display messages already read" feature - which also means that if I did see
the original post, it's likely no longer visible in my client.

As you note for yourself, however, NObody wants to have to scroll down to
the end of a lengthy post to read the response. Usenet protocol is to
cite JUST those portions of the post(s) to which you are responding,
sufficient to convey the context of your response - but NOT usually the
entire previous post or thread-to-date. (There's a lively debate about
top/bottom/interspersed posting with regard to such responses, but that's
another matter.)

"Paul Folbrecht" wrote in message
...

I'm looking for input from you guys that have had your rating for awhile
and who do stay current and fly in IMC regularly. What does it take,
realistically, for you to feel proficient and safe flying and shooting
approaches in actual? If you don't get actual time, do you still
regularly practice approaches simulated with a safety pilot?

It's not too much of a problem out here during winter but I do practice
during the summer with a fully rigged FlyElite simulator. Winter, though, is
the slow season for my business.

As your
overall time increases, does it take somewhat less flying to maintain
that same level of comfortable currency?

Just a bit, but the lags must be consistent without to long of a gap.

--
Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...

"Paul Folbrecht" wrote in message
...

I'm looking for input from you guys that have had your rating for awhile
and who do stay current and fly in IMC regularly. What does it take,
realistically, for you to feel proficient and safe flying and shooting
approaches in actual? If you don't get actual time, do you still
regularly practice approaches simulated with a safety pilot?

It's not too much of a problem out here during winter but I do practice
during the summer with a fully rigged FlyElite simulator. Winter, though,
is
the slow season for my business.

As your
overall time increases, does it take somewhat less flying to maintain
that same level of comfortable currency?

Just a bit, but the lags must be consistent without to long of a gap.


I might add that 95% of all my flight plans are IFR regardless of weather or
altitude.


--
Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO