GPSMAP 195 or 196

On the III it is on the position page. Those six boxes on the top 3/4
of the page are user configurable. For example you can display totally
useless info like the sunset and sunrise times, trip odometer, etc.



Coolidge wrote:

Newps wrote:
much info about voltmeter snipped
: And so does the GPS III.

Where is this feature located in the 195 and III pilot? I have looked for
it on my 295 with no luck, perhaps I can find it with all of your assistance.
PS: I presume you mean the AIRCRAFT's DC voltage, not the battery voltage...

"Mike Spera" wrote:
I can get a newly overhauled (like new condition)
195 with a 1 year warranty for $550. No WAAS,
no "panel page", 4 level gray.


I had a GPS III Pilot, then a 195. I liked the little GPS III Pilot
better. If you're looking for an o'hauled unit, I recommend it over the
195.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM
(remove pants to reply by email)

Same here. I bought a 195 the week the GPSIII pilot was introduced. Found
the 195 to be too bulky to be useful (it was in the way no matter how I
mounted it). Returned it, and bought a GPS-III pilot instead. I got the
horizontal mount for the GPS-III and have it velcroed to the glareshield
above the radio stack. It's low profile keeps it from blocking my vision
outside, and it is not in the way of the yoke or of seeing other
instruments. I fly with it on the HSI page most of the time, and on the
moving map for approach.

Dan Luke wrote:

"Mike Spera" wrote:
I can get a newly overhauled (like new condition)
195 with a 1 year warranty for $550. No WAAS,
no "panel page", 4 level gray.

I had a GPS III Pilot, then a 195. I liked the little GPS III Pilot
better. If you're looking for an o'hauled unit, I recommend it over the
195.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM
(remove pants to reply by email)

--
--Ray Andraka, P.E.
President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc.
401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950
email
http://www.andraka.com

"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759

Ray Andraka wrote:
Same here. I bought a 195 the week the GPSIII pilot was introduced. Found
the 195 to be too bulky to be useful (it was in the way no matter how I
mounted it). Returned it, and bought a GPS-III pilot instead. I got the
horizontal mount for the GPS-III and have it velcroed to the glareshield
above the radio stack. It's low profile keeps it from blocking my vision
outside, and it is not in the way of the yoke or of seeing other
instruments. I fly with it on the HSI page most of the time, and on the
moving map for approach.

The 195 with the RAM suction cup can be attached to the side of the
windscreen. This puts the display in view while heads up and keeps it
out of the way of other instruments.

I also bought a GPS III Pilot, but traded to a used 195 because I wanted
a bigger screen. I like the bigger screen, but the page updates are
incredibly slow---the unit seems to go to sleep for up to 5 or 6 seconds
at a time going from one area to another. I have the latest software.

I played with a 196 once and it is a huge difference, the screen updates
were like lightning by comparison. The 195 drives me nuts but I haven't
been able to justify upgrading (see prior whiny thread about going to a
Lowrance 500 or tablet PC or whatnot)---at this point I'm saving for a
panel mount instead.

lid wrote:
I also bought a GPS III Pilot, but traded to a used 195 because I wanted
a bigger screen. I like the bigger screen, but the page updates are
incredibly slow---the unit seems to go to sleep for up to 5 or 6 seconds
at a time going from one area to another. I have the latest software.

I played with a 196 once and it is a huge difference, the screen updates
were like lightning by comparison. The 195 drives me nuts but I haven't
been able to justify upgrading (see prior whiny thread about going to a
Lowrance 500 or tablet PC or whatnot)---at this point I'm saving for a
panel mount instead.

What are you flying that you feel the screen updates are slow?
I fly everything from a 65 hp Champ to 300 hp V35B with my 195 and do
not feel the screen updates are slow.
The only thing the GPS provides is courseline guidance and groundspeed.

That was one of the things I considered before returning the 195. Anywhere on
the glareshield or on the side pillars blocked too much of the outside. There is
that pesky see-and-avoid thing. The GPS III with a horizontal mount is low
enough that it only blocks the view of the top of the cowl in my Cherokee Six.
That larger screen and approaches in the 195 were nice, but to me, the fact that
it was so big meant that no matter where I put it, it blocked seeing something be
it other instruments, or outside the cockpit.

john smith wrote:

Ray Andraka wrote:
Same here. I bought a 195 the week the GPSIII pilot was introduced. Found
the 195 to be too bulky to be useful (it was in the way no matter how I
mounted it). Returned it, and bought a GPS-III pilot instead. I got the
horizontal mount for the GPS-III and have it velcroed to the glareshield
above the radio stack. It's low profile keeps it from blocking my vision
outside, and it is not in the way of the yoke or of seeing other
instruments. I fly with it on the HSI page most of the time, and on the
moving map for approach.

The 195 with the RAM suction cup can be attached to the side of the
windscreen. This puts the display in view while heads up and keeps it
out of the way of other instruments.

--
--Ray Andraka, P.E.
President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc.
401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950
email
http://www.andraka.com

"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759

john smith wrote:
The 195 with the RAM suction cup can be attached to the side of the
windscreen. This puts the display in view while heads up and keeps it
out of the way of other instruments.

Ray Andraka wrote:
That was one of the things I considered before returning the 195. Anywhere on
the glareshield or on the side pillars blocked too much of the outside. There is
that pesky see-and-avoid thing. The GPS III with a horizontal mount is low
enough that it only blocks the view of the top of the cowl in my Cherokee Six.
That larger screen and approaches in the 195 were nice, but to me, the fact that
it was so big meant that no matter where I put it, it blocked seeing something be
it other instruments, or outside the cockpit.

True, the RAM mount attached to the side of the windscreen works best
for high-wing aircraft (Cessnas, Champ). When I fly a low-wing Piper
(Archer III, Arrow IV, Cherokee Six), I use the stock yoke mount.

I'd second Dan's comments. I returned a 195 in exchange for the III Pilot.
IMHO the 195 is cludgy and has antiquated connections. The III Pilot is
horizontal or vertical, you choose, fits nicely in the yoke or in top of the
glare shield and is as functional (if not moreso than the 195). I was
initially skeptical about the screen size, but, even with my aging eyes, thi
isn't an issue - plenty big enough. For the price, it's a great little
unit. Save some extra bucks and get the III Plus - non-aviation - and
upload your waypoints. You miss out on the Jepp DB and the airspace etc,
but most of the NDBs VORs etc you can upload.

FWIW,
Kevin
"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...
"Mike Spera" wrote:
I can get a newly overhauled (like new condition)
195 with a 1 year warranty for $550. No WAAS,
no "panel page", 4 level gray.


I had a GPS III Pilot, then a 195. I liked the little GPS III Pilot
better. If you're looking for an o'hauled unit, I recommend it over the
195.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM
(remove pants to reply by email)

In article ,
Mike Spera wrote:

I can get a newly overhauled (like new condition) 195 with a 1 year
warranty for $550. No WAAS, no "panel page", 4 level gray.

Or I can spring the $875 for a new 196. WAAS, 12 level gray, W&B
capabilities, plus lots of other features. I could really use the street
map feature in the car but they soak you ANOTHER $250 for that. When I
think that all us taxpayers paid for all the street AND air data that
these GPS manufacturers get for FREE, it is a little annoying to pay
300% more for these devices than they should cost. Oh well, whining
feature OFF.

The 195 is also capable of doing W&B calculations, as well as trip
planning, routes, etc.

BTW, I have a 195 and love it. G

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

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