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Old October 29th 04, 04:58 AM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"PaulaJay1" wrote in message
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In article . net, "Steven
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Who does your GTX330 report your N number to?


I assumed that it is transmitted back with altitude and code. Good
question
about it being available to controller. As a controller, what do you know
about it being displayed at your end?


At my end the aircraft callsign, which can be an N-number or air carrier
flight number or military callsign, is displayed only when the ARTS computer
can associate it with a discrete ATC assigned squawk code.


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Old October 28th 04, 10:02 PM
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:32:53 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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Who does your GTX330 report your N number to?


I don't think they do directly report the N number, but doesn't the
installer-coded Mode S octal code get downllinked to ATC whenever a
mode-s enabled ground interrogator paints it, regardless of the unit's
user-selectable "flight id" or 4096 code setting, thus effectively
downlinking the N number because of a trivial database lookup?

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Old October 29th 04, 05:01 AM
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"Peter Clark" wrote in message
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I don't think they do directly report the N number, but doesn't the
installer-coded Mode S octal code get downllinked to ATC whenever a
mode-s enabled ground interrogator paints it, regardless of the unit's
user-selectable "flight id" or 4096 code setting, thus effectively
downlinking the N number because of a trivial database lookup?


Beats the hell out of me. The only time I get a callsign displayed is when
the aircraft is squawking an ATC assigned beacon code and the ARTS computer
associates that code to a specified callsign.


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Old October 29th 04, 04:29 PM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message link.net...

Who does your GTX330 report your N number to?


It's in the response data stream sent back to ATC from the GTX-330.
However, ask any controller at any major Class B facility, and it's
unlikely they're actually showing it (if their equipment even is
updated to receive it).
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Old October 29th 04, 04:35 PM
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"Dave" wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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Who does your GTX330 report your N number to?


It's in the response data stream sent back to ATC from the GTX-330.
However, ask any controller at any major Class B facility, and it's
unlikely they're actually showing it (if their equipment even is
updated to receive it).


So what's the point in sending it to ATC?


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Old October 28th 04, 06:42 PM
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"PaulaJay1" wrote in message
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In article , (Roy Smith)
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Unfortunately, my GTX330 reports my N number (why did they do that?).


Why would you want something that tattles on you?


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Old October 28th 04, 07:42 PM
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OtisWinslow wrote:
: Unfortunately, my GTX330 reports my N number (why did they do that?).

: Why would you want something that tattles on you?

They made it an 'S' for "Secret" so you wouldn't know it was tattling on you.
And since S C in the alphabet, plane owners who want the best and baddest would feel
compelled up upgrade.

Same with the new 406MHz ELTs. Then they can prosecute you for not waiting
until 5 minutes into the hour before testing it at your annual. It'll snitch your
N-number too.

-Cory


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Old October 28th 04, 08:16 PM
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PaulaJay1 wrote:


Unfortunately, my GTX330 reports my N number (why did they do that?).


Actually, it gives a mode S id number which they can look up in
the registration database and map to your N number.
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Old October 29th 04, 03:28 AM
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"Roy Smith" wrote in message
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PaulaJay1 wrote:

I've filed the NASA form. By the way, what does that get me?


It gets you protection from being prosecuted (not sure if that's the
right legal word) for your accidental clearance bust, assuming the FAA
were to initiate any action.


It doesn't prevent them from violating you, it simply means that if they
investigate and find you at fault they can't actually take action against
your certificate. In other words, you don't lose your license, but you
record will (permanently or temporarily as the case may be) reflect the
results of the investigation. In other words, it doesn't prevent them from
finding you guilty, it just means you won't go to jail.

-cwk.


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Old October 28th 04, 09:04 PM
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A NASA form was intended to collect information about the national airspace
system
Accordingly, for being so generous and providing information you get a pass
as I understand it.


 




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