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Old July 7th 03, 02:45 PM
John Harlow
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Which aircraft do you think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts?

Opinions?

Perhaps it should be a Cessna 172 and be subject to the same hassle as the
people to whom he is supposedly a "servant".


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Old July 7th 03, 09:17 PM
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"John Harlow" wrote in message
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: Which aircraft do you think should be the next Air Force One?
Thoughts?
: Opinions?
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: Perhaps it should be a Cessna 172 and be subject to the same hassle
as the
: people to whom he is supposedly a "servant".

Air Force one should be a microlight.
First duty of your president should be learning to fly...
betcha aviation rules and regs would make sense then :-))

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Old July 7th 03, 09:28 PM
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gblack wrote:

First duty of your president should be learning to fly...


Well, our current president did that back in the 60s.

betcha aviation rules and regs would make sense then :-))


You lose .......

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Old July 7th 03, 10:44 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"gblack" wrote in message
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Air Force one should be a microlight.
First duty of your president should be learning to fly...
betcha aviation rules and regs would make sense then :-))


The current president does know how to fly and the rules made more sense
before he entered office.


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Old July 7th 03, 06:05 PM
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at the time it was "any number more than _2_"

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So, what would do you think the US gov't would do for the B742's
version of AF1's replacement? Does the Gov't have a contract with
Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go
B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you
think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions?



It might depend on Boeing. IIRC, during the competition for the
VC-25, Boeing effectively said that they would do anything and
everything to win the contract. iow - the President was going
to be flying in a Boeing aircraft.


I vaguely remember somehting about AF1 being required to have four
engines (here's the 2 vs.4 ETOPS argument again...). Urban legend or
not? Think Boeing could hang two extra engines on a Vista-Cruiser or
whatever they've decided to call the 7E7 when the time comes?? :-)



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Old July 5th 03, 02:17 PM
Gilles KERMARC
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A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:
Does the Gov't have a contract with
Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go
B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you
think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions?

To put it the other way round, it is hard to imagine the french
President flying Boeing in the foreseeable future.
IMHO, the present political relations have little to do with it.

We are in a "buy European" (whenever possible) situation somewhat
similar to your "buy American" situation.

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Old July 5th 03, 11:47 PM
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I was reading on an English news site 2 weeks ago that there may be a "Blair
Force One" sometime in the immediate future. The British government feels
that the prime minister should have his own airborne command &
control/flying hotel. Currently for oversea trips, the PM just flys on
charted British Airways aircraft.

You can bet if it ever happens, it will be an airbus.

Ardna



"Gilles KERMARC" wrote in message
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A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:
Does the Gov't have a contract with
Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go
B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you
think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions?

To put it the other way round, it is hard to imagine the french
President flying Boeing in the foreseeable future.
IMHO, the present political relations have little to do with it.

We are in a "buy European" (whenever possible) situation somewhat
similar to your "buy American" situation.



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Old July 5th 03, 04:11 PM
Clark W. Griswold, Jr.
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A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:

So, what would do you think the US gov't would do for the B742's
version of AF1's replacement?


The AF1 747s fly so many less hours than a commercial plane and are so
meticulously maintained, that you will be wearing Depends in a nursing home
before anyone even talks about replacing them.
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Old July 6th 03, 02:34 AM
Henry Bibb
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"A Guy Called Tyketto" wrote in message
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B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you
think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions?


I think they ought to spiff up a BUFF & use that.



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Old July 6th 03, 04:15 AM
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A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:

So, what would do you think the US gov't would do for the B742's
version of AF1's replacement? Does the Gov't have a contract with
Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go
B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you
think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions?



My understanding is that the cost of the aircraft delivered by Boeing is
less than half the total
cost of the AF1 aircraft.

Airforce one is highly modified to be both a luxury office complex for
schmoozing dignitaries
and an airborne command/control/communication center that is a 21
century version of
"Looking Glass".

If and when a new AF1 is built, it will probably have the same heavy
lift capacity of the 747 line.

Next AF1's will probably be built on C-5A airframes.




 




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