AOPA's new online flight planner

In article ,
(Jay Masino) wrote:

I cant even get it to work at all !
It wont connect at least from my computer and my dsl connection. I've
never
had problems with any other 'net based software, so I'm not sure if its
me
or Jepp with the problem.

Plus, the downloadable app is only for PCs (as per the .exe extension),
so
Mac and UNIX users are screwed.

what kind of idiot creates an online tool that requires a windows-based
client?

WWW? browser? bah, who needs em?

--
Bob Noel

I used it tonight for the first time. Took 12 seconds to download and
was easy to install. Got a weather briefing and some maps. All very easy.

Bob Noel wrote:
In article ,
(Jay Masino) wrote:


I cant even get it to work at all !
It wont connect at least from my computer and my dsl connection. I've
never
had problems with any other 'net based software, so I'm not sure if its
me
or Jepp with the problem.

Plus, the downloadable app is only for PCs (as per the .exe extension),
so
Mac and UNIX users are screwed.


what kind of idiot creates an online tool that requires a windows-based
client?

WWW? browser? bah, who needs em?

"Jim" wrote in message
...
Just got an email from AOPA pushing their new online flight planner.
First
impression is telling me not to give up my E6-B, plotter, and sectionals.
It's slow, clunky, and disconnects constantly from the Jepp server bank.
I'll give them time to improve it, but they're doing a poor job
re-creating
something that's already available online in several versions that are
smoother, faster, and less cumbersome. Hopefully it's just a v1.0
problem.

Anybody else trying it this morning? What are your experiences?

I tried it. I like it. And I like the price...

"Jim" wrote in message ...
Just got an email from AOPA pushing their new online flight planner. First
impression is telling me not to give up my E6-B, plotter, and sectionals.
It's slow, clunky, and disconnects constantly from the Jepp server bank.
I'll give them time to improve it, but they're doing a poor job re-creating
something that's already available online in several versions that are
smoother, faster, and less cumbersome. Hopefully it's just a v1.0 problem.

Anybody else trying it this morning? What are your experiences?

I tried it. I think it's quite useful, especially the thumbnail
weather maps. But I think it's clearly a level below the 'best' flight
planner I've found...the one at 'aeroplanner.com'. I prefer
Aeroplanner.com for a few reasons:

1. The fantastic PDF 'triptik' output that includes charts, approach
plates, frequences, etc.

2. The ability to store completed trip information on your local PC or
at the server.

3. Aeroplanner seems faster in compiling all the necessary
information.

4. The increased scope of the Aeroplanner product, and the ability to
see a much greater variety of information and charts.

That said, I like the AOPA product, and will certainly use it. But it
won't replace Aeroplanner (or even Co-Pilot on my Palm, for quick
planning.

Cheers,

Cap

I tried it. It is not bad. Although I can't figure out how to display
VORs when zoomed out enough to see the route (I usually ask for a
direct route then pick VORs along the route line).

If I have access to the web I will still use DUATS and AEROPLANNER, if
I am on the road, Cirrus (or FSS) are still my only options.

I would really like the AOPA version if I could:
Plan a route off line.
Display VORs on zoomed out displays.
Had an 800 number for direct connection to the planner.

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:19:09 -0500, Tony Woolner
wrote:

Would it be possible to talk to you about GATTS instrument training in
Kansas on the phone?

Email me

By the way what is the weather like out there in March? I just received a
letter brochure and CD from them.

I was there in December for my instrument, it was windy and snowy.

I was there in March for my commercial, it was windy and snowy.

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:48:00 GMT, ArtP
wrote:

I was there in December for my instrument, it was windy and snowy.

I was there in March for my commercial, it was windy and snowy.

Sounds like home!
all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put CUB in subject line)

see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com

Would it be possible to talk to you about GATTS instrument training in
Kansas on the phone?
By the way what is the weather like out there in March? I just received a
letter brochure and CD from them.
Tony Woolner

ArtP wrote:

I tried it. It is not bad. Although I can't figure out how to display
VORs when zoomed out enough to see the route (I usually ask for a
direct route then pick VORs along the route line).

If I have access to the web I will still use DUATS and AEROPLANNER, if
I am on the road, Cirrus (or FSS) are still my only options.

I would really like the AOPA version if I could:
Plan a route off line.
Display VORs on zoomed out displays.
Had an 800 number for direct connection to the planner.

Jim wrote:
Just got an email from AOPA pushing their new online flight planner. First
impression is telling me not to give up my E6-B, plotter, and sectionals.
It's slow, clunky, and disconnects constantly from the Jepp server bank.
I'll give them time to improve it, but they're doing a poor job re-creating
something that's already available online in several versions that are
smoother, faster, and less cumbersome. Hopefully it's just a v1.0 problem.

Anybody else trying it this morning? What are your experiences?

I posted my experiences with this somewhere, I guess it was a different thread.
Anyway, I think we are finally past all the problems where the servers weren't
up in the first few days after introduction.

I'm still having some other problems that I haven't heard anyone else report. Am
I the only one?

- crashes with regularity.

- displays "Uuuuuu..." for the names of various facilities.

I've reported both problems to AOPA, but apparently there is no feedback
mechanism to tell you whether they acknowledge the problem, or kiss my foot, or
anything.

Dave
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