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Old October 27th 03, 07:02 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Chip Jones" wrote in message
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LOL, FAA is actively exploring ways to privatize the entire terminal
system, cashier the airways technicians who maintain the NAS

infrastructure,
outsource the Flight Service Stations and shrink the 20 continental
ARTCC's into 3 mega facilities to save money.


They are? What's your source for that?


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Old October 27th 03, 07:09 PM
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On 2003-10-27 09:49:05 -0800, (null) said:

My favorite was that after the OKC bombings I think, they blocked off the parking
spaces (a significant loss in parking) in front of the Leesburgh AFSS. Security, right.
Someone might blow up the FSS.


My personal favorite is the amazingly heavy "security" at FSDOs these days, as if they were somehow vital to the continuing operation of the whole system.

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Old October 27th 03, 07:09 PM
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Well.. he WORKS for them.. so maybe that counts for something...

Dave

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Chip Jones" wrote in message
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LOL, FAA is actively exploring ways to privatize the entire terminal
system, cashier the airways technicians who maintain the NAS


infrastructure,

outsource the Flight Service Stations and shrink the 20 continental
ARTCC's into 3 mega facilities to save money.



They are? What's your source for that?



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Old October 27th 03, 07:11 PM
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"Larry Fransson" wrote in message t...

My personal favorite is the amazingly heavy "security" at FSDOs these days, as if they were somehow
vital to the continuing operation of the whole system.


Despite the official FAA paranoia, the DC FSDO at least didn't succumb. They were happy to deal
with walkins as long as you met with your inspector in the little conference table outside the office
area proper.


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Old October 27th 03, 07:13 PM
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"Dave S" wrote in message ink.net...
Well.. he WORKS for them.. so maybe that counts for something...


No more than Steve does.


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Old October 27th 03, 07:29 PM
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Dave S wrote:

Well.. he WORKS for them..


So does Steven.

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Old October 27th 03, 07:53 PM
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Larry Dighera writes:

Visitors to SoCal TRACON must present their ID at the guard
shack located some distance from the building proper.


Why would the madman in the panel truck stop at the guard shack to
present ID?

I believe they are trying the to the best of their _ability_.


That's what worries me.

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Old October 27th 03, 07:54 PM
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"Marco Leon" mleon(at)optonline.net writes:

Different impact. Knocking down an airliner with a bomb will do as it is
intended and kill all on board. Aside from killing the people in the TRACON,
the cessation of air traffic control will not cause all the planes under its
control to come crashing down or into each other. They will find a way to
land VFR with a good chance of landing safely. Either that or deviate to
another manned sector or center.


And if multiple centers are simultaneously attacked, so that all ATC is
effectively shut down?

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Old October 27th 03, 07:55 PM
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Ron Natalie writes:

Actually, most of the Center's (and some of the non-tower based tracons) have
pretty good security. You can't get anywhere near the buildings at ZDC.


Just like the Pentagon, you mean?

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Old October 27th 03, 08:15 PM
Larry Dighera
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:53:37 +0100, Mxsmanic
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Larry Dighera writes:

Visitors to SoCal TRACON must present their ID at the guard
shack located some distance from the building proper.


Why would the madman in the panel truck stop at the guard shack to
present ID?


Good point.

I believe they are trying the to the best of their _ability_.


That's what worries me.


That's what I was attempting to imply.


 




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