Transponder reminder: 1202, do NOT ident unless requested by ATC

On Feb 8, 6:34*pm, Frank Whiteley wrote:
On Feb 8, 6:11*pm, Dave Nadler wrote:

Thanks - Does this mean that the effective date
is really 7-March (and not 9-February as briefed) ?
Thanks,
Best Regards, Dave

http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/m.../N7110.577.pdf

and

http://www.faa.gov/regulations_polic...mentID/1019737

The effective date is shown as March 7th 2012 and the Cancellation date
is shown as July 26th 2012. What is up with the Cancellation Date?


On 2/8/2012 7:36 PM, Frank Whiteley wrote:
On Feb 8, 6:34 pm, Frank wrote:
On Feb 8, 6:11 pm, Dave wrote:

Thanks - Does this mean that the effective date
is really 7-March (and not 9-February as briefed) ?
Thanks,
Best Regards, Dave

http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/m.../N7110.577.pdf

and

http://www.faa.gov/regulations_polic...mentID/1019737

The change will be an added note in AIM par 4-1-20, and a change in
order 7110.65U par 5-2-13 (added code 1202 to be monitored by ATC),
and par 5-2-9 (very decent description of glider-unique operational
characteristics!). Publication date July 26, 2012 (the next AIM cycle
- may explain the cancellation of the notice in force until then).

The hope is that Air Traffic Automation can be updated in the future
to incorporate a “G” into the datablock to signify a glider.

The TSO efforts for a low-cost/low-power ADS-B transceiver are also
moving along.

KL

On Feb 8, 7:14*pm, Kolie wrote:
The change will be an added note in AIM par 4-1-20, and a change in
order 7110.65U par 5-2-13 (added code 1202 to be monitored by ATC),
and par 5-2-9 (very decent description of glider-unique operational
characteristics!). *Publication date July 26, 2012 (the next AIM cycle
- may explain the cancellation of the notice in force until then).

The hope is that Air Traffic Automation can be updated in the future
to incorporate a “G” into the datablock to signify a glider.

The TSO efforts for a low-cost/low-power ADS-B transceiver are also
moving along.

KL

That may explain some of the issues. FAA cannot even meet their own
internal suspense and publication dates. So now a temporary JO
notification telling the controllers what 1202 is all about and to
program their radar display filters to show 1202 codes.

I just checked all of the publications listed in the Internal Change
Memo I mentioned and none of the online documents, with change
publication dates of 9 Feb 2012 have anything to say about the 1202
Code and Gliders.

I did get an email this evening from my local TRACON Airspace manager,
forwarding me the 7110.577 document and wanting to discuss the impact
to our local soaring operations. I replied, we are ready to roll from
1200 to 1202, was he ready? We have about 6 gliders in the local area
with transponders installed.

T

On 2/8/2012 7:37 PM, T wrote:
I did get an email this evening from my local TRACON Airspace manager,
forwarding me the 7110.577 document and wanting to discuss the impact
to our local soaring operations. I replied, we are ready to roll from
1200 to 1202, was he ready?

Does anyone know if they will issue NOTAMS as these changes are implemented?

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm
http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl

On Feb 8, 8:50*pm, Eric Greenwell wrote:
On 2/8/2012 7:37 PM, T wrote:

I did get an email this evening from my local TRACON Airspace manager,
forwarding me the 7110.577 document and wanting to discuss the impact
to our local soaring operations. I replied, we are ready to roll from
1200 to 1202, was he ready?

Does anyone know if they will issue NOTAMS as these changes are implemented?

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarmhttp://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl

ZDV Airspace Beacons and Procedures said to hold off on 1202 until the
effective date of March 7th.

Frank Whiteley

On Feb 9, 9:01*am, Frank Whiteley wrote:
On Feb 8, 8:50*pm, Eric Greenwell wrote:

On 2/8/2012 7:37 PM, T wrote:

I did get an email this evening from my local TRACON Airspace manager,
forwarding me the 7110.577 document and wanting to discuss the impact
to our local soaring operations. I replied, we are ready to roll from
1200 to 1202, was he ready?

Does anyone know if they will issue NOTAMS as these changes are implemented?

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarmhttp://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl

ZDV Airspace Beacons and Procedures said to hold off on 1202 until the
effective date of March 7th.

Frank Whiteley

Another pilot forwarded me a copy of a proposed change/briefing
sheet. The proposed change did not make it into 7110.65U which became
effective Feb 9, 2012, hence JO 7110.577, delaying implementation
until March 7.

Frank Whiteley

On Feb 9, 9:01*am, Frank Whiteley wrote:
On Feb 8, 8:50*pm, Eric Greenwell wrote:

On 2/8/2012 7:37 PM, T wrote:

I did get an email this evening from my local TRACON Airspace manager,
forwarding me the 7110.577 document and wanting to discuss the impact
to our local soaring operations. I replied, we are ready to roll from
1200 to 1202, was he ready?

Does anyone know if they will issue NOTAMS as these changes are implemented?

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarmhttp://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl

ZDV Airspace Beacons and Procedures said to hold off on 1202 until the
effective date of March 7th.

Frank Whiteley

I think part of the delay is due to 7110.66E not having been published
yet (national beacon/code assignments), which is why the change was
omitted from 7110.65U.

Frank

Denver area will switch March 7 th. I was told by local ATC
If the new order gets given. They said it won't get published till June.
July



AtS 16:34 09 February 2012, Frank Whiteley wrote:
On Feb 9, 9:01=A0am, Frank Whiteley wrote:
On Feb 8, 8:50=A0pm, Eric Greenwell wrote:

On 2/8/2012 7:37 PM, T wrote:

I did get an email this evening from my local TRACON Airspace
manager=
,
forwarding me the 7110.577 document and wanting to discuss the
impact
to our local soaring operations. I replied, we are ready to roll
from
1200 to 1202, was he ready?

Does anyone know if they will issue NOTAMS as these changes are
impleme=
nted?

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS,
Flarmhttp:/=
/tinyurl.com/yb3xywl

ZDV Airspace Beacons and Procedures said to hold off on 1202 until the
effective date of March 7th.

Frank Whiteley

I think part of the delay is due to 7110.66E not having been published
yet (national beacon/code assignments), which is why the change was
omitted from 7110.65U.

Frank