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  #11  
Old December 17th 03, 10:18 PM
Jay Honeck
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field on long island. It is now a town owned private airport and only
allow
air traffic if it is for business purposes unfortunately I told the real
reason for the landing and it was denied. What can you do..


How does that work? How do they know it's for business?

And how do they "deny" permission to land? What class airspace is it?

Sounds like a royal PI the A.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
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www.AlexisParkInn.com
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Old December 17th 03, 10:44 PM
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It used to be a military airport were Grumman built and tested the F-14's.
When the Navy left they turned it over to the town of Riverhead. You now
must have prior permission to land there. What you have to do is to fax the
town supervisor and tell him when and why you want to go there he will fax
you back permission. A typical reason that gets approved its to go visit a
business on the field. There are no aviation business except a skydiving
firm. If I had BSed my reason it probably would have been approved. The
supervisor was voted out of office and departing Jan 1st so he seemed to
have an attitude.

http://www.grummanpark.org/

Take care.

Jon

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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field on long island. It is now a town owned private airport and only

allow
air traffic if it is for business purposes unfortunately I told the real
reason for the landing and it was denied. What can you do..


How does that work? How do they know it's for business?

And how do they "deny" permission to land? What class airspace is it?

Sounds like a royal PI the A.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"




  #13  
Old December 17th 03, 11:18 PM
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We have been *so* fortunate here, in Seattle of all places:
30005KT 10SM FEW160 SCT250 BKN330 11/05

The Parade of Planes went ahead with very few problems. 120 local pilots
signed up (there were a few no-shows). There were 6 speed groups plus a
formation team flying a circle up to Everett and down to McChord south of
Tacoma. Flight A lead reached the dispersal point, abeam BFI, just as the
sweep for flight F reported off the ground.

We started at the Museum of Flight at 9 for briefings, and left for the
airplane around 11:10 (we had to miss the Flyer's attempt on the big
screen). We got out of the plane about 1:30. In between was lots of meeting
other pilots and their craft, from big warbirds to a pair of Long-Ezes. I
was a passenger in the back of a friend's 206 - we have the same instructor,
who was in the left seat. We were following a Texan and an Archer, with
another 8 behind us in the group. As far as I could hear, only one craft had
to leave the parade, a biplane suffering some roughness.

Enormous kudos to the team from MOF for pulling it together at fairly short
notice, and to the guys at Boeing Tower. We even got a stirring send-off
from the FSDO guy (who introduced himself as representing the Federal
Anti-Aviation Administration).

I think I'll make sure I'm in the front seat in December 2103.

-- David Brooks


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Old December 17th 03, 11:28 PM
Jay Honeck
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http://www.grummanpark.org/

Wow. How can such a cool, historic airport have such a crappy attitude?

You guys need to get AOPA involved.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old December 17th 03, 11:35 PM
Rob Perkins
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:09:01 -0500, "jon"
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Departed JFK rwy 31 left climbed to 1400' slight right turn direct to the
numbers of lga rwy 31. Landing fee $114
If you can communicate on the radio and follow their directions you would
have no problem.


That seems steep. Aren't there times of the day when it's much cheaper
to land at LGA?

Rob
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Old December 17th 03, 11:40 PM
Dave
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Reading this

http://www.billzilla.org/pearce.htm


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Old December 17th 03, 11:53 PM
jon
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I had thought it was going to be $150 so I was somewhat happy. I think I
read that after 9:00 pm it was cheaper.
This was only a landing fee, Signature didn't charge me any handling or ramp
fees.
Jon

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On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:09:01 -0500, "jon"
wrote:

Departed JFK rwy 31 left climbed to 1400' slight right turn direct to the
numbers of lga rwy 31. Landing fee $114
If you can communicate on the radio and follow their directions you would
have no problem.


That seems steep. Aren't there times of the day when it's much cheaper
to land at LGA?

Rob



  #18  
Old December 17th 03, 11:55 PM
jon
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Wow this sounds great .. Any pictures ?


"David Brooks" wrote in message
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We have been *so* fortunate here, in Seattle of all places:
30005KT 10SM FEW160 SCT250 BKN330 11/05

The Parade of Planes went ahead with very few problems. 120 local pilots
signed up (there were a few no-shows). There were 6 speed groups plus a
formation team flying a circle up to Everett and down to McChord south of
Tacoma. Flight A lead reached the dispersal point, abeam BFI, just as the
sweep for flight F reported off the ground.

We started at the Museum of Flight at 9 for briefings, and left for the
airplane around 11:10 (we had to miss the Flyer's attempt on the big
screen). We got out of the plane about 1:30. In between was lots of

meeting
other pilots and their craft, from big warbirds to a pair of Long-Ezes. I
was a passenger in the back of a friend's 206 - we have the same

instructor,
who was in the left seat. We were following a Texan and an Archer, with
another 8 behind us in the group. As far as I could hear, only one craft

had
to leave the parade, a biplane suffering some roughness.

Enormous kudos to the team from MOF for pulling it together at fairly

short
notice, and to the guys at Boeing Tower. We even got a stirring send-off
from the FSDO guy (who introduced himself as representing the Federal
Anti-Aviation Administration).

I think I'll make sure I'm in the front seat in December 2103.

-- David Brooks




  #19  
Old December 18th 03, 12:03 AM
Montblack
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("Dave" wrote)
Reading this

http://www.billzilla.org/pearce.htm



I'd like to believe, but......

Where's the photos? By 1903, good cameras had been around for over 40 years.

Between 1903 and (maybe) 1907, the Wright Brothers were it. If some guy from
New Zealand could do it (even 3 years after the Wright's "First Flight") it
would have been reported.

Sorry.

--
Montblack
http://lumma.de/mt/archives/bart.gif


  #20  
Old December 18th 03, 02:30 AM
Peter Duniho
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"jon" wrote in message
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I returned a few hours ago from my flight to celebrate the 100th
anniversary. [...]


Nice. I missed flying today, but I got a one-day reprieve on some pressing
matters, and I'm hoping to sneak out tomorrow. It will no longer be the
17th anywhere in the world, but better late than never, right?

We did luck out today and have some great flying weather (which made it all
the harder to keep working rather than heading to the airport). I did
happen to catch several large flights of airplanes doing a parade. I don't
know where they started (though I suspect the well-formed flights of RVs
probably came from Arlington, north of here, where all the homebuilts hang
out) but it was a lot of fun, and I saw probably 50 airplanes go by in the
span of about 30 minutes, in a half-dozen different groups.

I'm a little ticked that no one invited me to participate in the parade, but
that's probably because I don't spend enough time hanging out with other
pilots in real life. Gotta do something about that...

Pete


 




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