Wing-support for Duo one-person assembly

On Sunday, September 2, 2012 4:58:12 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Hi Dave!

I use the IMI single-seater for my Antares, In teh club we use
the IMI double-seater version for the Arcus. I prefer the IMI over the Lange.

Have Fun
Hans

Thanks Hans !
See ya, Dave

PS: Hans has an Antares 18 - no batteries in the wing !

PS: Hans - Further questions about the the IMI double-seat version:
- suitable for one-person assembly ?
- spring strong enough to offset the weight of the wing ?
- have you used this on a Duo (much bigger chord than Arcus) ?
- do you have to go under the wing to adjust or lock the height ?

Dave,

I use a wingrigger on my Arcus and it works fine. Steve strengthened the unit and added larger tires.

Barry (ARC)

On Sunday, September 2, 2012 8:29:39 PM UTC-4, Barry wrote:
Dave,



I use a wingrigger on my Arcus and it works fine. Steve strengthened the unit and added larger tires.



Barry (ARC)

So you solo rig your Arcus?

Am Montag, 3. September 2012 00:02:43 UTC+2 schrieb Dave Nadler:

PS: Hans - Further questions about the the IMI double-seat version:
- suitable for one-person assembly ?
I think one could do it, but I have nevery tried it, because in club there are always other people around and we just use it so that we do not have to carry the heavyt wing

- spring strong enough to offset the weight of the wing ?
Yes (it is not a spring but a gas strud)

- have you used this on a Duo (much bigger chord than Arcus) ?
No, but there is much room for adjustment of teh fixation.

- do you have to go under the wing to adjust or lock the height ?
Yes, this feature is much more ellegantly solved with the Lange design. But I see no safety risk in this.

On Monday, September 3, 2012 7:09:27 AM UTC-4, wrote:
Am Montag, 3. September 2012 00:02:43 UTC+2 schrieb Dave Nadler:
- do you have to go under the wing to adjust or lock the height ?

Yes, this feature is much more ellegantly solved with the Lange
design. But I see no safety risk in this.

The risk is to my inflexible spine...
I really don't want to be repeatedly bending over
and/or crawling under the wing.
This is NOT necessary with a good design !

Thanks again,
Best Regards, Dave

Am Montag, 3. September 2012 17:11:15 UTC+2 schrieb Dave Nadler:
On Monday, September 3, 2012 7:09:27 AM UTC-4, wrote:

Am Montag, 3. September 2012 00:02:43 UTC+2 schrieb Dave Nadler:

- do you have to go under the wing to adjust or lock the height ?
Yes, this feature is much more elegantly solved with the Lange
design. But I see no safety risk in this.

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I really don't want to be repeatedly bending over
and/or crawling under the wing.
This is NOT necessary with a good design !


You are right is not necessary, but the the additional comfort (or usability in you case) comes with a higher price tag. When I adjust the hight of the wing I normally sit on the round and do not bend my back.

On Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:44:38 AM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:
When you lift the tip of the main wing panel to pull it out of the trailer, how many pounds are you lifting?



And what is the total piece weight of the DD inboard wing panel?

Total weight is 215lbs I believe. I haven't ever stepped on a scale while picking up either the wing tip or the root. I'd guess the split is like 130lb/85lb or something like that between the root and the tip. It's heavy, but mostly it is awkward.

There is a lot of weight on the trailing edge once you rotate flat. Then for the person at the tip, the height is very high given the dihedral. When Julie and I rig, the tip is at about shoulder height for her.

Originally Posted by Dave Nadler

On Sunday, September 2, 2012 4:58:12 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Hi Dave!

I use the IMI single-seater for my Antares, In teh club we use
the IMI double-seater version for the Arcus. I prefer the IMI over the Lange.

Have Fun
Hans

Thanks Hans !
See ya, Dave

PS: Hans has an Antares 18 - no batteries in the wing !

PS: Hans - Further questions about the the IMI double-seat version:
- suitable for one-person assembly ?
- spring strong enough to offset the weight of the wing ?
- have you used this on a Duo (much bigger chord than Arcus) ?
- do you have to go under the wing to adjust or lock the height ?

Hi Dave

I bought Paul Cordell's Nimbus 3D a couple of years or so back and it had a very basic wing rigger with it. I one man rig without any problems. It uses a mechanical screw height adjustment but once it is set it hardly needs any fiddling. To get the fine adjustment for pin alignment I adjust the fuse up or down with the fuse cradle jack(Cobra trailer). I've seen people with much fancier and more complex gear have more trouble, you just gotta have the knack

Although the Duo is quite high at the outer end of the inner panel I wouldn't think you would have too much trouble with a well set up wing rigger

Weather permitting I'll get you some photos tomorrow and email them to you

Cheers
Colin

On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 6:51:03 AM UTC-4, Ventus_a wrote:
Hi Dave

I bought Paul Cordell's Nimbus 3D a couple of years or so back and it
had a very basic wing rigger with it. I one man rig without any
problems. It uses a mechanical screw height adjustment but once it is
set it hardly needs any fiddling. To get the fine adjustment for pin
alignment I adjust the fuse up or down with the fuse cradle jack(Cobra
trailer). I've seen people with much fancier and more complex gear have
more trouble, you just gotta have the knack

Although the Duo is quite high at the outer end of the inner panel I
wouldn't think you would have too much trouble with a well set up wing
rigger

Weather permitting I'll get you some photos tomorrow and email them to
you

Cheers
Colin

Thanks Colin !

On Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:49:24 PM UTC-4, Steve Leonard wrote:
Make a Duo Cuff for your Antares rigger.

The two gliders live in different places.
I guess I could buy another unit from Lange
and rework the cuff. Might require other mods
(increase height) - may be simpler to build
my own from scratch rather to buy a project !

See ya, Dave