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Old January 31st 04, 02:07 AM
Robert M. Gary
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Odd, I've always been able to write a check to the customs service for
my $25. Perhaps they ran your name and didn't want your check. I
always get the sticker, thank them and then throw it out on the way
back to the plane. My airplane is too pretty to get gooed up with a
$25 sticker. I just write a check for $25 each time I cross. In the
scheme of things, its a pretty small amount to have a customs officer
drive out to meet you.


-Robert



(Paul Tomblin) wrote in message ...
If you land in Canada and come back, you'll need a US customs sticker on
your plane. If you don't have one ahead of time, you'll need to be
carrying $50 US on your person to buy one - they don't take checks, credit
cards or Canadian money.

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Old January 31st 04, 02:08 AM
Paul Tomblin
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In a previous article, (Robert M. Gary) said:
Odd, I've always been able to write a check to the customs service for
my $25. Perhaps they ran your name and didn't want your check. I


To tell you the truth, our club buys the stickers, so I haven't bought one
in 7 or 8 years. Maybe things have changed.


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Old January 31st 04, 04:34 AM
Mike Schumann
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I flew north of Lake Erie from Detroit to Rochester NY VFR a couple of years
ago (pre 9/11). I'm not sure if anything has changed since then.

At that time, I filed a flight plan specifying "Overflight Only". I used
flight following the entire way. Most of the time I was over Canada, I was
talking to Cleveland Center. Near Niagara Falls, I got switched to Toronto
Center.

At the time I did the overflight, you only got billed for Candian ATC fees
if you landed in Canada. I also did not have to go thru customs in
Rochester, because I never landed outside the US.

I was very glad I flew over Canada, as I was in completely clear VFR
weather, while I could see major thunderstorm activity south of Lake Erie
over Cleveland.

Again, keep in mind that things may have changed.

Mike Schumann

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Hey all,
Anyone in the Great Lakes area familiar with the procedures for overflying
Canadian airspace? Specifically from the Detroit area to Niagara Falls,

NY.
Is there a fee if you don't land in Canada? Do you still have to file a
DVFR flight plan? I can't believe you'd have to go through customs once

in
NY, right?
I'd prefer to land in St. Catherines, ON , but I thought I read somewhere
that on entering Canada you have to land at first INTL airport, and I'm
assuming on return to the US I'd have to go through Niagara Falls anyway,
pay some landing/parking fee's and then play with customs, so not worth it
probably.
Flying direct saves me a few gallons, about 20mins, and avoids the whole
Cleveland Class B and curving around the south side of Lake Erie.
Any opinions?
Thanks, Chris




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Old January 31st 04, 02:33 PM
Paul Tomblin
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In a previous article, "Mike Schumann" said:
At that time, I filed a flight plan specifying "Overflight Only". I used
flight following the entire way. Most of the time I was over Canada, I was
talking to Cleveland Center. Near Niagara Falls, I got switched to Toronto
Center.


Funny, I've flown V82 from Buffalo to Sarnia, and I spent most of the time
talking to Toronto Center.

At the time I did the overflight, you only got billed for Candian ATC fees
if you landed in Canada.


That has not been true for a very long time. Any time you talk to
NavCanada controllers, you get billed. $15Cdn for the quarter.

I also did not have to go thru customs in
Rochester, because I never landed outside the US.


That is true.



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Old January 31st 04, 09:41 PM
Jules Beaudoin
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I have overflown Canada many, times from Buffalo to Port Huron. All you
have to do is file a regular flight plan, activate it and close it when you
get to your (US) destination. No need to talk with ATC US or CAN. But
don't land in Canada.


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Old February 1st 04, 10:00 PM
Paul Tomblin
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In a previous article, "Jules Beaudoin" said:
I have overflown Canada many, times from Buffalo to Port Huron. All you
have to do is file a regular flight plan, activate it and close it when you
get to your (US) destination. No need to talk with ATC US or CAN. But
don't land in Canada.


Have you done this since 9/11? Because you're supposed to be talking to
somebody when you cross the border.

http://www.aopa.org/members/files/tr...ada/can02.html

"You will also have to comply with the U.S. requirement for a Mode A and C
transponder (or a waiver) and for prior contact with a U.S. ATC facility
prior to crossing the border. Failure to do this will likely result in
interception."

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