Flying Music -- iTunes PIREP

Unlikely "Soulseek" is illegal. There may be files on the
peer-to-peer network that appear to be in violation of copyright law,
but that doesn't mean the service is illegal.

Providing the means and method with which to break the law isn't illegal?

By that logic, (and admittedly this is an extreme example) the guy who
supplied the explosives to blow up the Federal Building in Oklahoma City
should be released. All he did was provide the means, right?

And Soulseek is providing these means on a truly grand scale. I'm no
lawyer, but using the site sure "felt" illegal!
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Are you sure about the MP3 format? Back when I looked into this,
they were delivering files in some not-MP3 format. I prefer MP3
because my CD player plays MP3 format CDs.

As someone else said, the songs actually come across in something called
".AAC" format.

Whatever it is, it rips straight to a CD without a problem, and apparently
plays in the iPod player (which I don't own).

I suppose there must be a way to convert it to MP3 format? For me this is
a non-issue, but I can see why it would be critical from your end...
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:L8eSb.181253$xy6.869765@attbi_s02...

Providing the means and method with which to break the law isn't illegal?

In general not. Otherwise every gun store owner and manufactuer would
already be locked up. Depending on the local laws, it may or may not
be legal for me to carry locksmithing tools with me. In some cases it's
only illegal for me to carry them if I intend to use them to break the law.

In the case of communications, you've really got to provide a convincing
case (or a lot of bribe money, er I mean, campaign donations) to place
a restriction on it.

By that logic, (and admittedly this is an extreme example) the guy who
supplied the explosives to blow up the Federal Building in Oklahoma City
should be released. All he did was provide the means, right?

I'm not sure who you are talking about. If you're talking about Nichols,
he did more than just provide explosives...he was found guilty of conspiracy.

And Soulseek is providing these means on a truly grand scale. I'm no
lawyer, but using the site sure "felt" illegal!

Using it may be illegal, but that doesn't make the site owners liable.

Providing the means and method with which to break the law isn't
illegal?

In general not. Otherwise every gun store owner and manufactuer would
already be locked up. Depending on the local laws, it may or may not
be legal for me to carry locksmithing tools with me. In some cases it's
only illegal for me to carry them if I intend to use them to break the
law.

Good point. The law really does seem to be schizophrenic about this issue.

Figuring out where someone becomes an "accessory" to a crime is a really,
really fine line.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:aVeSb.51839$U%5.286277@attbi_s03...


Good point. The law really does seem to be schizophrenic about this issue.

Not much more than anything else.

Figuring out where someone becomes an "accessory" to a crime is a really,
really fine line.

Generally, you need specific knowledge about the criminal act. Prior restraint
on free speech is a hard thing to enforce even with a statute (or else these sites
would be long gone).

These sites will argue that they exist only to facilitate legal sharing of information.
The fact that they could be used for illegal activity doesn't making them (by their
argument) any more liable than Xerox is if someone sticks a $100 bill in the copier
and starts running off copies.

In article %M9Sb.176619$I06.1794771@attbi_s01, Jay Honeck
wrote:

A recent thread talked about downloading music for playing in the plane.
Being an old fossil, I had never done this before, and solicited suggestions
and help regarding this unknown (to me) area of the internet.

Several sites were suggested and explored, but the only "legal" (meaning
"pay per song") music site I found was www.iTunes.com , which has turned out
to be a marvelous experience -- thanks to whomever suggested it!
SNIP

Here's the best part of the whole thing: At the end, when you've got your
80 minutes (or so) of music downloaded, you burn the CD with a SINGLE CLICK.
There is none of the hassle of opening another program, or formatting a
disk -- iTunes has its own built-in CD burning software that creates a CD,
playable in ANY CD player. Again, painless, quick, and easy.

Welcome to the wonderful world of Apple. It's *ALL* this nice when you
use a Mac :-)

I love having 2500 songs on my iPod to chose from while I fly.

Tom Fleischman wrote:


Welcome to the wonderful world of Apple. It's *ALL* this nice when you
use a Mac :-)

I love having 2500 songs on my iPod to chose from while I fly.

My kid has an Ipod, 10GB I think. A Mac is not needed or desired.

"Tom Pappano" wrote in message
y.com...
And even cheaper, you can get a portable CD player that is MP3
compatible. (some are under $30) One 800mb disk holds a *lot* of
MP3 encoded tracks.

About 200-225 at 128Mbit.

These disks can also be played on most of the new DVD players as well.

Jay Honeck wrote:

Providing the means and method with which to break the law isn't
illegal?

In general not. Otherwise every gun store owner and manufactuer would
already be locked up. Depending on the local laws, it may or may not
be legal for me to carry locksmithing tools with me. In some cases it's
only illegal for me to carry them if I intend to use them to break the
law.

Good point. The law really does seem to be schizophrenic about this issue.

Not at all. Anybody can make and sell anything that has a legal use. It is using
the item to break the law that's illegal, and that includes conspiring to do so.
Nothing schizoid about it.

George Patterson
Love, n.: A form of temporary insanity afflicting the young. It is curable
either by marriage or by removal of the afflicted from the circumstances
under which he incurred the condition. It is sometimes fatal, but more
often to the physician than to the patient.

In article %M9Sb.176619$I06.1794771@attbi_s01, Jay Honeck
wrote:

Several sites were suggested and explored, but the only "legal" (meaning
"pay per song") music site I found was www.iTunes.com , which has turned out
to be a marvelous experience -- thanks to whomever suggested it!

As Martin pointed out, that's generally how things from Apple work. A
nice clean presentation, an easy learning curve, and a very powerful
tool, all rolled into one. Their computers are the same way. :-)

While the Windows version came out just a few months ago, I first used
the iTunes music store when it debuted for the Macs last April. I've
been hooked ever since; it really IS a neat thing. I'm glad you've
discovered it. If you're a Pepsi drinker, check out apple.com for
news about the free-music-download giveaway they're doing next month.
1 in 3 bottles will have a code for a free song download. Very nice.

I'll second the iPod recommendation as well. I've had one for a
while now; it interfaces very well with my LightSpeed Twenty 3G
headset. Makes those long flights go a little easier, and the
auto-mute when the radio comes to life is very handy.

--
Garner R. Miller
ATP/CFII/MEI
Manchester, CT =USA=