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"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
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"Jim Baker" wrote in message
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The no warning feature is one of the great things about the B-1. Flying
low
in B-52s, the wild horses and cattle can see and maybe hear you coming.
They start running as you approach. In the Bone, they never moved.
Didn't
see or hear us. Odd.

Could it be that the BONE pushes less of a pressure wave out front?

Well, travelling just below mach 1 doesn't give much time for the sound
to arrive before you do.

Paul

"Jim Fisher" wrote in message ...

Too bad we have that silly rule about not breaking sound barriers in
populated areas here in the states. I'd love to witness that some day.


At an Airshow at NAS Fallon back in the '90s I experienced this "up
close and personal". I was standing by the taxiway when an F-18 made
a low level, high speed pass down the runway. He accidentally busted
mach 1 just as he passed the grandstand. The double crack of the boom
was like getting slapped with a giant invisible hand. It took a few
minutes to get my hearing back too.

The FAA observer at the show happened to be standing right next to
me. He was not happy.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

He accidentally busted
mach 1 just as he passed the grandstand.

Yeah, suuure it was accidental! I watched an F-14 do the same thing, only about
3000 feet over the beach in Corolla NC last October. He pulled up and over,
onto his back, and then rolled level. Is that a split- S? Anyway, before he
headed back north, I heard a BIIG Double BOOM, and he was... Gone. I was on
the top deck of the rental house, cheering!
Matt

"MDinzey" wrote in message
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He accidentally busted
mach 1 just as he passed the grandstand.

Yeah, suuure it was accidental! I watched an F-14 do the same thing, only
about
3000 feet over the beach in Corolla NC last October. He pulled up and
over,
onto his back, and then rolled level. Is that a split- S? Anyway, before
he
headed back north, I heard a BIIG Double BOOM, and he was... Gone. I was
on
the top deck of the rental house, cheering!
Matt

It sounds like an Immelman. A wings level, climibing 180 degree turn with a
half roll at the top to right side up.

A Split S begins in level flight, half roll to inverted with a wings level
pull through to level flight going the other way. Sort of the opposite of
an Immelman

JB

(MDinzey) wrote in message ...
He accidentally busted
mach 1 just as he passed the grandstand.

Yeah, suuure it was accidental!

I'm pretty sure it was. The FAA man gave the squadron commander an
earful at the time. I had to wait an extra hour for my buddy (who was
part of the airshow) to come out of the debrief, he said most of the
delay was the yelling and screaming about the guy who busted mach.
Unless your name is Maverick, you don't get away with that kind of
stuff in the Navy.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

Back during the testing of the Hawker Hunter in the 1950s, they
were tested at supersonic speeds (in a dive) around Surrey and
Sussex (the area I currently live in), flying out of Dunsfold. I recently
read Neville Duke's autobiography (test pilot) and he describes the
first time he realised he'd gone past mach 1...it was when one of the
locals said to him in the pub "Good run this morning". It had generated
"one of they queer bangs".

Paul

"Jim Fisher" wrote in message
. ..
Too bad we have that silly rule about not breaking sound barriers in
populated areas here in the states. I'd love to witness that some day.

On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 at 15:00:50 in message
, Paul Sengupta
wrote:
Back during the testing of the Hawker Hunter in the 1950s, they
were tested at supersonic speeds (in a dive) around Surrey and
Sussex (the area I currently live in), flying out of Dunsfold. I recently
read Neville Duke's autobiography (test pilot) and he describes the
first time he realised he'd gone past mach 1...it was when one of the
locals said to him in the pub "Good run this morning". It had generated
"one of they queer bangs".

During some Farnborough Air Shows in the early 1950s sonic 'booms' were
a regular feature. On that tragic day in August 1952 we heard sonic
booms from the Hunter and the ill-fated DH110 which produced a well
aimed 'boom' shortly before its arrival in the circuit and its
catastrophic break up in the air which killed, I think, 28 people.

Some parts of that day were engraved into my memory.

In addition, later at Filton, parts of the Bristol area were
deliberately subjected to 'booms' as part of an experiment to see how
people might react to Concorde. Those I believe were produced by USA
F100 Super Sabres.
--
David CL Francis

David CL Francis wrote:

During some Farnborough Air Shows in the early 1950s sonic 'booms' were
a regular feature.

I remember hearing them in the '50s in East Tennessee. Not part of an airshow,
though.

George Patterson
Battle, n; A method of untying with the teeth a political knot that would
not yield to the tongue.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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David CL Francis wrote:

During some Farnborough Air Shows in the early 1950s sonic 'booms' were
a regular feature.

I remember hearing them in the '50s in East Tennessee. Not part of an
airshow,
though.

George Patterson

I lived 5 miles from a Guard F-100 base. I thought almost daily booms were
a normal thing, while growing up. I miss them. I wonder how many others
would mind having them come back. It would make a new SST a viable project,
if I'm right.
--
Jim in NC


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