Live ATC - A victim of homeland security??

"StallFearer" wrote in message
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I threw away my .45 and bought a pack of tweezers for protection in my
home. ;-)

The one I love is when the media report that someone is keeping "bomb-making
materials" in their home. Looking around my house I have:

wire
wire cutters
aluminum foil
ceramic bowls
iron filings
cinnamon
potassium permanganate
potassium nitrate
gasoline
oil
brake fluid
glycerin
ice
sugar
batteries
clocks
cellular phones
laptop computers
portable radios
smokeless powder
other ammunition
pool/spa chlorine
old newspapers
alcohol
urea
fertilizer
laundry detergent
propane
paraffin
sawdust
a bundle of fuse cord (for a toy black powder cannon I once had)
string

Of course, my 73 year old mother also has most of this stuff, plus
nitroglycerin. In fact, she is likely to set off bomb sniffers just walking
(well, riding her scooter) through an airport.

I'm probably missing a lot of other really obvious stuff, but then I am not
interested in making bombs, either. I think every reporter who writes an
article saying that somebody was keeping bomb-making material in his house
should be forced to do a complete inventory of the bomb-making materials
that the reporter keeps in his own house. That goes for idiot law
enforcement officers who continue to perpetuate this, too.

On Sun, 16 May 2004 11:08:41 -0700, C J Campbell wrote:

The one I love is when the media report that someone is keeping "bomb-making
materials" in their home. Looking around my house I have:

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cinnamon



What? What is that used for, other than food? What's the ingredient
that's relevant to the topic at hand?

In article , Greg Copeland
wrote:

On Sun, 16 May 2004 11:08:41 -0700, C J Campbell wrote:
The one I love is when the media report that someone is keeping "bomb-making
materials" in their home. Looking around my house I have:
cinnamon

What? What is that used for, other than food? What's the ingredient
that's relevant to the topic at hand?

Cinnamon, in certain quantities, is a poison.

On Mon, 17 May 2004 12:56:15 +0000, EDR wrote:

In article , Greg Copeland
wrote:

On Sun, 16 May 2004 11:08:41 -0700, C J Campbell wrote:
The one I love is when the media report that someone is keeping "bomb-making
materials" in their home. Looking around my house I have:
cinnamon

What? What is that used for, other than food? What's the ingredient
that's relevant to the topic at hand?

Cinnamon, in certain quantities, is a poison.

Ya, so is nutmeg. But he was talking about bomb making material. So,
what's the connection?

Cinnamon is used in sticky bombs.

EDR wrote in message ...
In article , Greg Copeland
wrote:

On Sun, 16 May 2004 11:08:41 -0700, C J Campbell wrote:
The one I love is when the media report that someone is keeping "bomb-making
materials" in their home. Looking around my house I have:
cinnamon

What? What is that used for, other than food? What's the ingredient
that's relevant to the topic at hand?

Cinnamon, in certain quantities, is a poison.

On Mon, 17 May 2004 12:56:15 GMT, EDR wrote:

In article , Greg Copeland
wrote:

On Sun, 16 May 2004 11:08:41 -0700, C J Campbell wrote:
The one I love is when the media report that someone is keeping "bomb-making
materials" in their home. Looking around my house I have:
cinnamon

What? What is that used for, other than food? What's the ingredient
that's relevant to the topic at hand?

Cinnamon, in certain quantities, is a poison.

My Organic Chem lab T.A. had us write out the lethal ways that water
can kill you / hurt you on EVERY lab. I'll never forget:

Can cause drowning if inhaled into the lungs in quantities greater
than 2 tablespoons.

Can cause excessive urination if large quantities are consumed.

Can cause kidney failure if EXTREMELY large quantaties are consumed
over a large period of time (12 hours).

"Greg Copeland" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 16 May 2004 11:08:41 -0700, C J Campbell wrote:

The one I love is when the media report that someone is keeping
"bomb-making
materials" in their home. Looking around my house I have:

.
.
.
cinnamon



What? What is that used for, other than food? What's the ingredient
that's relevant to the topic at hand?

Many years ago Clark Kent as a boy wanted to make his own firecrackers. He
told his mother he needed some cinnamon.... The whole story, of course, was
another learning experience with a moral for a boy who would grow up to
become Superman. Obviously, no Superman comic would tell kids what they
really need to make firecrackers.

I included it in the list simply out of nostalgia.

On Mon, 17 May 2004 07:06:06 -0700, C J Campbell wrote:


"Greg Copeland" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 16 May 2004 11:08:41 -0700, C J Campbell wrote:

The one I love is when the media report that someone is keeping
"bomb-making
materials" in their home. Looking around my house I have:

.
.
.
cinnamon



What? What is that used for, other than food? What's the ingredient
that's relevant to the topic at hand?

Many years ago Clark Kent as a boy wanted to make his own firecrackers. He
told his mother he needed some cinnamon.... The whole story, of course, was
another learning experience with a moral for a boy who would grow up to
become Superman. Obviously, no Superman comic would tell kids what they
really need to make firecrackers.

I included it in the list simply out of nostalgia.

I see. LOL. Thanks for sharing that. Kind of funny what out children
have to be protected from, and how. I wonder how many kids tried to make
something with cinnamon after reading that. You know, somewhere, there's
got to be one kid that tried something with it. LOL.

Thanks.

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-Jonathan

"Sam" wrote in message
m...
I used to listen to live ATC webcasts a couple of years ago and was
able to get LAX, DFW, Ohare, etc. Now the only link I can find is for
SoCal approach. The rest of the links are offline, some w/ messages
stating they were requested to stop transmission, etc. Is this due to
security concerns? Did some knucklehead actually think the San Diego
tower webcast was aiding terrorism?? What's next? A top secret
clearance for a wx brief? There are far too many people running
around like headless chickens over terrorism restrictions.