NYC Help?

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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"Joe Johnson" wrote in message
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It was pretty cool to see big jets 500 feet above & below me.
(American 458, traffic is a Skyhawk, 12 o'clock, 2 miles, 3500
ft--report
traffic in sight!)

Hm, is 500' enough separation for wake turbulence? The airliner was
presumably flying well below cruise speed.

--Gary

That one was at 3000' on approach to LGA, going opposite to my direction. I
don't think he was going much faster than I was :-)

Gary Drescher wrote:

Hm, is 500' enough separation for wake turbulence? The airliner was
presumably flying well below cruise speed.

Approaching Colts Neck from the north, I occasionally get Newark departures
passing underneath, usually w/in 1000'. I'm shocked that ATC doesn't warn
them about wake turbulance from my 172.

- Andrew

"Joe Johnson" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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"Joe Johnson" wrote in message
m...
It was pretty cool to see big jets 500 feet above & below me.
(American 458, traffic is a Skyhawk, 12 o'clock, 2 miles, 3500
ft--report
traffic in sight!)

Hm, is 500' enough separation for wake turbulence? The airliner was
presumably flying well below cruise speed.

--Gary

That one was at 3000' on approach to LGA, going opposite to my direction.
I
don't think he was going much faster than I was :-)

Cool. Having them 500' below you is clearly ok. But 500' above you sounds
worrisome. The AIM cautions that wake turbulence can extend 1000' below an
airliner. I've never had the experience of coming closer than that, so I
don't know firsthand what it's like.

--Gary

Rental car, Hotel will not be included in this trip. I will be staying at my
friend's place. On top of that, My friend will pick me up. I will have to
ask him how far he is willing to drive to pick me up. Basically, tiedown is
all I need for this trip. Rental car and hotel are not factors in airport
selection.

Toks Desalu

In article 8SOsc.7122$eT4.3726@attbi_s54, Gary Drescher wrote:
"Joe Johnson" wrote in message
Cool. Having them 500' below you is clearly ok. But 500' above you sounds
worrisome. The AIM cautions that wake turbulence can extend 1000' below an
airliner. I've never had the experience of coming closer than that, so I
don't know firsthand what it's like.

I've been warned of wake turbulance when an airliner passed 500ft over me.
737, IIRC.

Tina Marie
--
http://www.tripacerdriver.com "...One of the main causes
of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way
to indicate successful termination of their C programs." (Robert Firth)

Toks Desalu wrote:

Rental car, Hotel will not be included in this trip. I will be staying at
my friend's place. On top of that, My friend will pick me up. I will have
to ask him how far he is willing to drive to pick me up. Basically,
tiedown is all I need for this trip. Rental car and hotel are not factors
in airport selection.

Hmm. If he's driving to pick you up, then from where he is driving would
make a difference. Depending upon that, Teterboro, Westchester, Republic,
or Linden might be best (as in closest). I'd guess that Uptown Manhatten
would mean Teterboro and Downtown Manhatten would mean Linden.

- Andrew

Tina Marie wrote:

I've been warned of wake turbulance when an airliner passed 500ft over me.
737, IIRC.

Do you get the same warning if you're overtaking the airliner?

- Andrew

Andrew Gideon wrote:
Do you get the same warning if you're overtaking the airliner?

I fly a Tripacer. There's no danger of me _ever_ overtaking an airliner.

Tina Marie
--
http://www.tripacerdriver.com "...One of the main causes
of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way
to indicate successful termination of their C programs." (Robert Firth)

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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Tina Marie wrote:

I've been warned of wake turbulance when an airliner passed 500ft over
me.
737, IIRC.

Do you get the same warning if you're overtaking the airliner?

Presumably that's even worse. The slower it's going, the more wake turblence
it generates.

--Gary


- Andrew

You might also consider Somerset Airport (SMQ) or Central Jersey Airport
(47N). Both are reasonably close to railroads that can get you into NYC
quickly, and are outside the class B airspace. You will need to arrange for
a taxi from airport to Somerville, Raritan or Bridgewater stations. Both
airports are untowered, and have very reasonable fuel and tiedown rates.

--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)

I don't have to like Bush and Cheney (Or Kerry, for that matter) to love
America

"Toks Desalu" wrote in message
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Rental car, Hotel will not be included in this trip. I will be staying at
my
friend's place. On top of that, My friend will pick me up. I will have to
ask him how far he is willing to drive to pick me up. Basically, tiedown
is
all I need for this trip. Rental car and hotel are not factors in airport
selection.

Toks Desalu