Dogs flying

"C J Campbell" wrote:

Exposure to prolonged engine and propeller noise
definitely will cause hearing loss in humans, just as
prolonged exposure to rock and roll will.

Then it follows that it *could* potentially cause hearing loss in dogs as well.
Just because a dog bark is loud and they carry on with it for extended periods
doesn't mean that has the same effect on their hearing as a constantly running
engine at that specific level.

Dogs, however, can and do create noise that is just
as loud and prolonged without any apparent hearing
loss on their part,

Such as? and where is this study?

Most dogs, in fact, do not appear to hear all that well.
It is too easy to sneak up on them, for example, if you
do it from downwind. They will not respond to
whispered commands.

Really? I've owned many dogs, and I'm pretty light on my feet, and I've never
been able to sneak up on one until they were well into old age and *obviously*
hard of hearing. And as far as not responding to a whisper, I can whisper the
word "cookie" while she's asleep and my JRT jumps up and runs to the jar. I'd
say your statement depends on the dog in question.

Unfortunately, there don't appear to be any serious
studies measuring hearing loss in dogs due to noise
hazards. Anything veterinarians have to say in this
regard may be no better informed than what any dog
owner would say. It is all based on speculation and
anecdotal experience.

On that, I completely agree. Even a veterinarian's opinion *is* JUST that on
whether or not taking a dog in an airplane on a regular basis without providing
some form of ear protection would or would not be harmful to their hearing. As
said in a previous post, it all boils down to what you are comfortable with,
since the dog really has no choice (other than to make it extremely unpleasant
for you if he/she is unhappy!).

--Shirley

Maybe active noise reduction is the way to go. A lightweight ANR headset may be
easier to get the dogs to live with. You (the pilot) would then use the old
rickety ones you reserved for passengers you don't like very much.

Jose

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"Kyler Laird" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" writes:

Dogs' heads vary in shape so much that it would be almost impossible to
produce commercially viable hearing protection.

http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian...213/id23_m.htm

Boy, I would hate to trust my dog to such a device. Dogs' ears have a lot of
wax; sticking something in the ear could impact that wax and cause a lot of
problems.

Does anyone have any suggestions for cutting down noise for the dogs?

Gliding?

--

Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Almost Instrument
Cessna 172H C-GICE

With dogs that small, the easiest approach is going to be putting them in a
kennel and soundproofing that.

Mike
MU-2


"Chuck" wrote in message
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Hi, all,

Does anyone have any suggestions for cutting down noise for the dogs?
We have 2 toy poodles who we love to take with us on plane trips.
Unfortunately, they don't enjoy it and I think it's because of the
noise. I don't think there are any "doggie" headsets available. Any
suggestions?

TIA, Chuck

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Boy, I would hate to trust my dog to such a device. Dogs' ears have a lot
of
wax; sticking something in the ear could impact that wax and cause a lot
of
problems.

If your dog has a lot of wax in his ears, you should look at doing some
preventative maintenance. There should not be a huge amount of wax; no more
than the usual lubricating/cleaning amount.

We have had great success using boric acid powder (easily found in any drug
store) to clear up ear infections that cause a large wax build-up in our
dog's ears. We learned about it from our vet.

As for their barking causing hearing damage to themselves, dogs, humans, and
any variety of other mammals (and probably other animals) have a built-in
"noise suppressor" that prevents a problem with that. You can see this
easily yourself. Yell as loudly as you can, and then have a friend yell as
loudly as they can near you. His yell will sound MUCH louder than yours.

Pete

"Chuck" wrote in message
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Hi, all,

Does anyone have any suggestions for cutting down noise for the dogs?
We have 2 toy poodles who we love to take with us on plane trips.
Unfortunately, they don't enjoy it and I think it's because of the
noise. I don't think there are any "doggie" headsets available. Any
suggestions?

TIA, Chuck

It would probably be easier to "insulate" some sort of pet carrier to reduce
noise inside of it than to get a dog to wear any type of ear muff device.

--
Scott

As for their barking causing hearing damage to themselves, dogs, humans, and
any variety of other mammals (and probably other animals) have a built-in
"noise suppressor" that prevents a problem with that. You can see this
easily yourself. Yell as loudly as you can, and then have a friend yell as
loudly as they can near you. His yell will sound MUCH louder than yours.


I think that's not from any noise suppression effects as much as the
directionality of the transmitter, though the effect is the same. Put your
friend's ear right next to your ear, and THEN have him yell as loudly as he
can. Compare that to yours.

Jose

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"Teacherjh" wrote in message
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[...] Put your
friend's ear right next to your ear, and THEN have him yell as loudly as
he
can.

I've done it. Have you?

The noise IS attenuated.

I've done it. [(having a friend shout with his near near mine)] Have you?

No. I'm speculating. If you've done it, I'll take your word for it.

Jose



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