Oshkosh FRS & Othersuch Frequencies

shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

-Actually, you guys, I believe 123.3 and 123.5 are reserved for
-"school" frequencies.

Read it closer, Jer. This is from FCC Part 87 (47CFR87) that delineates the
regulations for the use of these frequencies.

Subpart K -- Aviation Support Stations

87.319 Scope of Service

Aviation support stations are used for the following types of operations:

(a) Pilot training;
(b) Coordination of soaring activities between gliders, tow aircraft, and land
stations;
(c) Coordination of activities between free balloons or lighter-than-air
aircraft and ground stations
(d) Coordination between aircraft and aviation service organizations located on
an airport concerning the safe and efficient portal-to-portal transit of the
aircraft, such as the types of fuel and ground services available; and
(e) Promotion of safety of life and property.

Read (d) very carefully. If we aren't transmitting information on efficient
portal to portal transit between the airport and Jay's hotel, I don't know what
else I can say.

If I am the first one there, then Jay will be PERFECTLY legal as I *do* have the
license for these frequencies. Note that section (a) does NOT require you to
have a pilot training BUSINESS, just pilot training. I got the license on the
basis of a CFI alone. As a matter of fact, I could PROBABLY authorize Jay to
use the frequency perfectly legally in my absence. Nobody says that the
licensee has to be the one to hit the PTT switch.

And, all AIRCRAFT are covered by another section. Can anybody say that going to
Oshkosh isn't pilot training of the first magnitude?


You should be using 122.9, 122.75 or 122.85.
-If you are going to "pirate" a radio frequency, please do it
-away from the school frequencies.

It doesn't bother me in the least to use any one of these three. ** That's why
I asked Jay to do a listening check on half a dozen different frequencies and
we'd pick the one that would interfere with the least amount of traffic.** As
yet, he hasn't done this, so in order to get the ball rolling, I picked the two
"legalest" frequencies in my opinion to use.


I hear the baggage handlers
-at ORD use "123.45" :-)

Yeah, well, I have the license for 123.4 and 123.45 as well, as RST Engineering
does some rather sophisticated airborne antenna testing. I've nailed a few
people who insist on blabbing on and on when I'm in the middle of a test. These
are covered under 87.299 et seq. and are ONLY available to manufacturers for
airborne testing.


-
-In rec.aviation.piloting Jay Honeck wrote:
- 123.3 (alternate 123.5) air-air and air-ground.
-
- Would this work for our "flying into Iowa City" frequency, Jim?

Only if you will listen for a while and see if either or both are "quiet" in
your neck of the woods.


Jim


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

My hat is off to Jim Weir, yet again!

Again, I am re-educated and have a better understanding.

Thank you Jim!

Best regards,

Jer/ "Flight instruction and mountain flying are my vocation!" Eberhard

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"Jim Weir" wrote in message
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shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:
Yeah, well, I have the license for 123.4 and 123.45 as well

Round where I fly, 123.4 is Lyneham Radar (RAF Lyneham).
Very busy when I was flying this evening. That's because the PFA
rally is this weekend and Kemble (where it's held) is near Lyneham.

Paul