NOTAM

"Newps" wrote in message
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To fly model rockets you have to get a waiver from FSDO to be legal.


No you don't, model rockets are not regulated by FAR.

In article , Newps writes:
I don't know, but does the FAA even have jurisdiction over model
airplanes and rockets? It seems you would have to get a city ordinance
or something like that to keep these from flying.

To fly model rockets you have to get a waiver from FSDO to be legal.

Incorrect.

To fly MODEL rockets (MR up to 1#), you need do NOTHING. FAR 101.1
completely exempts them from FAA regulation.

To fly LARGE MODEL ROCKETS (LMR 1.0-3.3#) you need to NOTIFY the FAA. FAR
101.22 Again, you are NOT requesting permission.

To fly HIGH POWER ROCKETS (HPR over 3.3#) you need to fill out the same
waiver form used for air shows, in advance (30-45 days) and get the FAA
permission in advance.

Under the current regulations, the FAA does not have the authority to ban
model rocket operations that are exempted under FAR 101.1 or 101.22. We flew
the weekend after 9/11 in spite of many other things being shut down.

Note that the FAA regulations say NOTHING about altitude. It's theoretically
possible for a model exempted under FAR 101.1 to go as high as 7000' AGL.
Yet I've got a model that falls into the HPR category, but only goes up
about 150'. As I've said many times, "It's the government, it doesn't have
to make sense"

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD"
To reply, remove the TRABoD!
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Save Model Rocketry from the HSA! http://www.space-rockets.com/congress.html

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Ash Wyllie" wrote in message
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I wonder how many modelers even know that NOTAMS even exist?


What are they going to do: take your model airplane license away?


Wait! Don't they have to first intercept the intruding aircraft with a
pair of F-16s and escort the culprit to the nearest airport? With one ship
flying formation off the wing? And use hand signals if you don't answer
their radio calls on 121.5?
This is too good. How many Estes-E motors would you have to strap
together to lift a rocket carrying 4 ounces of C-4?

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 08:49:12 -0700, "C J Campbell"
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"Ash Wyllie" wrote in message
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I wonder how many modelers even know that NOTAMS even exist?

What are they going to do: take your model airplane license away?

They could close a lot of our flying fields, I imagine.

Marty

Martin X. Moleski, SJ opined

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 08:49:12 -0700, "C J Campbell"
wrote:

"Ash Wyllie" wrote in message
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I wonder how many modelers even know that NOTAMS even exist?

What are they going to do: take your model airplane license away?

They could close a lot of our flying fields, I imagine.

I fly in my backyard. So do lots of people, and do they know that they are not
allowed to fly?


-ash
Cthulhu for President!
Why vote for a lesser evil?

On 27 Aug 2004 17:46:58 -0500, "Ash Wyllie" wrote:

...I fly in my backyard. So do lots of people, and do they know that they are not
allowed to fly?

I doubt there are many backyards like that in the NYC area. )

"Ignorance of the law is no excuse" (that I know of). Folks in the
Academy of Model Aeronautics are doing what they can to get
the word out, but lots of RC pilots are not AMA members.
There is no obligation to be a member in order to fly on private
property or wherever permission is granted by the owner(s).

Marty

In article , "Martin X. Moleski, SJ" writes:
"Ignorance of the law is no excuse" (that I know of). Folks in the
Academy of Model Aeronautics are doing what they can to get
the word out, but lots of RC pilots are not AMA members.
There is no obligation to be a member in order to fly on private
property or wherever permission is granted by the owner(s).

.... or to fly on PUBLIC property regardless of what the AMA thinks...

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD"
To reply, remove the TRABoD!
Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://nira-rocketry.org/LeadingEdge/Phantom4000.pdf
www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org

Save Model Rocketry from the HSA! http://www.space-rockets.com/congress.html

"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" wrote in message
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"Ignorance of the law is no excuse" (that I know of).


But if you're arrested and are ignorant of your right to remain silent, and
the cops fail to make you aware of that right, you walk.

"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" wrote:

They could close a lot of our flying fields, I imagine.

I used to fly from a baseball diamond. They're gonna close that?

George Patterson
If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people
he gives it to.

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 03:25:39 GMT, "G.R. Patterson III"
wrote:

I used to fly from a baseball diamond. They're gonna close that?

It depends on what you're flying and how much the local
enforcers want to crack down.

When I picture a confrontation between me and the cops,
I picture myself doing whatever they tell me to do, all things
being equal. I understand that other people are made of
sterner stuff and enjoy fighting with armed officers more
than I do. (

Marty