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Old September 15th 04, 04:17 AM
Cockpit Colin
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Do you make all your passengers wear Nomex undergarments?

No I don't. My risk is greater than theirs because I expose myself to that
small chance many more times than they do. If they did make such a decision
they too would significantly lower their chances of burning in such an
accident. The line has to be drawn somewhere - for me I choose to protect
myself as best I can - in everything I do in aviation.

I do however make them wear life jackets when flying single-engine over
water - I do carry a fire extinguisher - I do carry an aviation survival
kit. I do a lot of other things too - many of which also get me 'stick' from
others about my attitude to safety.

I have many conversations about this (which fall mostly on deaf ears) - the
inherent problem I find is that the group who's experience would be the most
compelling when it comes to people taking a more serious approach to
aviation safety are very quiet on the topic - because they're all dead. All
the rest seem to think (a) "It won't happen to me" and (b) if it did then
"I'd be able to handle it - it's the other pilots you need to worry about".

.... and as a result they continue to have accidents and get injured.


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Old September 15th 04, 04:46 AM
Jim Carter
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How is the risk any less per event for the passengers than it is for you?
Sure, you expose yourself more often, but if you think about it everyone
onboard is exposed to the same level of risk at the time the operations are
taking place. Increased frequency doesn't affect the per event risk and that
is what the Nomex is protecting against isn't it?

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"Cockpit Colin" wrote in message
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Do you make all your passengers wear Nomex undergarments?


No I don't. My risk is greater than theirs because I expose myself to that
small chance many more times than they do. If they did make such a

decision
they too would significantly lower their chances of burning in such an
accident. The line has to be drawn somewhere - for me I choose to protect
myself as best I can - in everything I do in aviation.

I do however make them wear life jackets when flying single-engine over
water - I do carry a fire extinguisher - I do carry an aviation survival
kit. I do a lot of other things too - many of which also get me 'stick'

from
others about my attitude to safety.

I have many conversations about this (which fall mostly on deaf ears) -

the
inherent problem I find is that the group who's experience would be the

most
compelling when it comes to people taking a more serious approach to
aviation safety are very quiet on the topic - because they're all dead.

All
the rest seem to think (a) "It won't happen to me" and (b) if it did then
"I'd be able to handle it - it's the other pilots you need to worry

about".

... and as a result they continue to have accidents and get injured.




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Old September 13th 04, 04:09 PM
Bela P. Havasreti
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On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 00:18:34 -0700, "David Herman"
wrote:

It was a relatively new A36 and it hit a travel trailer. A pilot
friend who lives at Evergreen witnessed the takeoff and ensuing crash.
I was nearby in the air at the time and saw a plume of black smoke so
I flew over to see if it was a structure fire or what. Very sad....

Bela P. Havasreti

The airport is Evergreen Sky Ranch, a private, grass strip (2650' long)
located near the town of Black Diamond (actually it looks closer to Enumclaw
or even Auburn to me, but it's listed as in Black Diamond), about 15 NM
southeast of Seattle.

"Diamond Head" is considerably west of there (and probably has much nicer
weather).


 




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