Man Falls out of 152

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Montblack" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell"
People who are that depressed are invariably so wrapped
up in themselves and their imaginary problems ...

This vastly understates what can be, and often is, a very serious and
debilitating medical condition. Depression is not something you just "face
and get over".

Michael

"Michael 182" wrote in message
news:yhB5d.265095$Fg5.91420@attbi_s53...

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Montblack" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell"
People who are that depressed are invariably so wrapped
up in themselves and their imaginary problems ...

This vastly understates what can be, and often is, a very serious and
debilitating medical condition. Depression is not something you just "face
and get over".

I agree with that. I hope that no one thinks that these days.

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 20:17:52 -0700, "C J Campbell"
wrote:


"Chris W" wrote in message
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A friend of mine told me he was following this news story where 2 men
were flying in a 152 somewhere in Texas. While making a turn to the
right, the passenger fell out of the plane. This was a few days ago and
my friend hasn't heard any updates. Anyone here know about this and
heard anything else? The whole thing sounds a little fishy to me.


Was it this one? Anyway, every now and then the news will report on someone
committing suicide this way.

NTSB Identification: FTW03LA041.
The docket is stored in the Docket Management System (DMS). Please contact
Public Inquiries
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Sunday, November 17, 2002 in Houston, TX
Probable Cause Approval Date: 9/30/2003

That's the one that came to my mind when I read the OP. The plane
originated out of DWH if I recall correctly and the body was located
in a field outside of Hempstead by a farmer a week or so later. The
guy was a NASA employee that was being investigated for theft of a
laptop with classified material on it according to the Houston
Chronicle among other things. He definitely did not "fall" out, he
jumped.


I just wonder what happened to the CFI that was in the plane. You
know that had to shake him up a little mentally.


Scott D.

Scott D. wrote:

He definitely did not "fall" out, he jumped.

I just wonder what happened to the CFI that was in the plane. You
know that had to shake him up a little mentally.

Don't forget about the guy (senior) who went for a ride in a biplane
and decided to end it all by unstrapping himself and going over the
side.

Chris W wrote in message news:ogq5d.366563$sh.266506@fed1read06...
A friend of mine told me he was following this news story where 2 men
were flying in a 152 somewhere in Texas. While making a turn to the
right, the passenger fell out of the plane. This was a few days ago and
my friend hasn't heard any updates. Anyone here know about this and
heard anything else? The whole thing sounds a little fishy to me.

That sounds a WHOLE LOT fishy to me. In fact, I'd say it is impossible
unless the individual worked at getting out of the airplane in flight.
I am currently teaching three primary students and showed them how
hard it was to open the door of a C-152 in flight. I did it to
alleviate their fears of falling out of the airplane if a door popped
open which happens from time to time.
Ol Shy & Bashful

It was real, and was a suicide. Happened in November 2002, not "a few days ago".

See NTSB report number FTW03LA041 for the full details

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?...LA041& akey=1


Chris W wrote in message news:ogq5d.366563$sh.266506@fed1read06...
A friend of mine told me he was following this news story where 2 men
were flying in a 152 somewhere in Texas. While making a turn to the
right, the passenger fell out of the plane. This was a few days ago and
my friend hasn't heard any updates. Anyone here know about this and
heard anything else? The whole thing sounds a little fishy to me.

This happened.. northwest of Houston, sometime about a year or two ago.
The airplane belonged to National Aviation based out of Hooks (KDWH).
The "skydiver" was a non-current pilot who was a NASA employee
(contractor I believe) who was under investigation for possession of
stolen NASA computer equipment.

He approached National Aviation under the guise of wanting to get some
currency instructions and take pictures. As a result, the aircraft
climbed to a fairly high altitude (for a 152) and had the instructor in
the right seat performing a turn (i am assuming to the right, since the
instructor wasn't looking at his passenger. The passenger switched the
transponder to 7700 unseen, unbuckled his belt, unplugged his headset,
and did a head first dive out the door. I'm sure the intructor was
caught quite by surprise. The instructor then returned to Hooks.

The "skydivers" body was found a few days later when the vultures were
circling.

I have logged time in the accident airplane a few years before this, but
I didn't know the person(s) involved. I would say this wasn't so much a
case of "falling out" of a 152 as "diving out" of a 152.

Dave
Houston

Chris W wrote:
A friend of mine told me he was following this news story where 2 men
were flying in a 152 somewhere in Texas. While making a turn to the
right, the passenger fell out of the plane. This was a few days ago and
my friend hasn't heard any updates. Anyone here know about this and
heard anything else? The whole thing sounds a little fishy to me.

Dave S wrote in message ink.net...
This happened.. northwest of Houston, sometime about a year or two ago.
The airplane belonged to National Aviation based out of Hooks (KDWH).
The "skydiver" was a non-current pilot who was a NASA employee
(contractor I believe) who was under investigation for possession of
stolen NASA computer equipment.

He approached National Aviation under the guise of wanting to get some
currency instructions and take pictures. As a result, the aircraft
climbed to a fairly high altitude (for a 152) and had the instructor in
the right seat performing a turn (i am assuming to the right, since the
instructor wasn't looking at his passenger. The passenger switched the
transponder to 7700 unseen, unbuckled his belt, unplugged his headset,
and did a head first dive out the door. I'm sure the intructor was
caught quite by surprise. The instructor then returned to Hooks.
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Excuse me but I have to say a loud...VERY LOUD BULL%%**** for the CFI
to sit there while the left seat guy worked his way out of the
aircraft and didn't know it??? Come on now...lets take a deep breath
and start over. The C152 is a shoulder to shoulder aircraft. The doors
will not come open farther than about 6" in flight with prop blast and
slipstream. To reach up and switch the XPDR to 7700 unseen(?),
unbuckle the seat belt(?), unplug the headset(?) (for what possible
purpose??) and do a head first dive out of the airplane? And the CFI
was quite caught by surprise?
That stretches the bounds of incredulity to say the least. I don't buy
into this one.
OGHF and 22,000 hours flying time

The "skydivers" body was found a few days later when the vultures were
circling.

I have logged time in the accident airplane a few years before this, but
I didn't know the person(s) involved. I would say this wasn't so much a
case of "falling out" of a 152 as "diving out" of a 152.

Dave
Houston

Chris W wrote:
A friend of mine told me he was following this news story where 2 men
were flying in a 152 somewhere in Texas. While making a turn to the
right, the passenger fell out of the plane. This was a few days ago and
my friend hasn't heard any updates. Anyone here know about this and
heard anything else? The whole thing sounds a little fishy to me.

Chris W wrote in message news:ogq5d.366563$sh.266506@fed1read06...
A friend of mine told me he was following this news story where 2 men
were flying in a 152 somewhere in Texas. While making a turn to the
right, the passenger fell out of the plane. This was a few days ago and
my friend hasn't heard any updates. Anyone here know about this and
heard anything else? The whole thing sounds a little fishy to me.

More than a year ago, I think. Sounds like suicide. You'd have a hard
time getting the door open and "falling" out, especially if the pilot
had anything to say about it.

Dan