Photos I Took Of St Helens

On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 10:24:44 -0700, "gatt"
wrote:

Scott D. wrote in message
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Then when the damn thing blows, that will be just that many less
stupid people in this world we would have to deal with.

I dont know, maybe I'm just having a bad day.

Everybody dig a foxhole and don't come out. Don't fly anywhere, 'cause
that's dangerous too. When a small plane crashes, that will be just that
many less stupid people in the world...

Maybe I'm just having a bad day.

Ok, when I tell you the stove is hot. Go on over and touch it anyways
just to see, I will watch you with a big grin on my face

Its not a "the world is dangerous" thing, its a "the Volcano is going
to blow soon" thing. So in the mean time, just stay away for the darn
thing, let it spew its ash, steam, rocks, lava....


Scott D.

Scott D. wrote in message
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Its not a "the world is dangerous" thing, its a "the Volcano is going
to blow soon" thing. So in the mean time, just stay away for the darn
thing, let it spew its ash, steam, rocks, lava....

LOL! In the spring of 1980 most people were disappointed. It wasn't a
"real volcano" 'cause there wasn't lava. That changed in May.

It's interesting to note, however, that I saw more steam coming from the
crater when I climbed to the rim in 1995 and again last year than I saw
flying around it on Sunday. And, in case you're interested, we approached
the mountain with exceptional caution. Stayed below the elevation of the
rim in case there was a plume or shockwave (very small chance of major
flying debris at this point), came around for a view of the crater, snapped
a photo and turned back to the south side.

And all of you people that say we're crazy, don't EVEN tell me you ride a
motorcycle. :

-c

"C J Campbell" wrote in message

This is not Hawaii. Explosions -- even the small ones -- on these
mountains
are measured in terms of many atomic bombs detonating all at once.

Your plane would look pretty silly with a rock the size of a Volkswagen
sitting in the middle of it.

The supersonic shockwave and 700-degree air would remove the airplane long
before the rock did, but you're probably not saying anything we don't know.
My father-in-law rode Hueys for the air national guard during the eruptions
in 1980.

On Sunday morning (
http://www.integraonline.com/~foo.ba...rOct372dpi.jpg) there were
no TFRs or NOTAMs, just advice to stay clear of ash and steam.

-c

Thanks great shots, last time it blew we got approximate 1/4 inch of dust.

Pat Thronson
Babb, MT


"NW_PILOT" wrote in message
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I have about a hundred more But here are a few sucked having a 5 mile TFR
today but ohh well.

http://www.warflying.net/helens/helens1.jpg

http://www.warflying.net/helens/helens2.jpg

http://www.warflying.net/helens/helens3.jpg

http://www.warflying.net/helens/helens4.jpg

In article ,
NW_PILOT wrote:
I have about a hundred more But here are a few sucked having a 5 mile TFR
today but ohh well.

"...AT AND BELOW 13000 FEET MSL TO PROVIDE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT DUE TO
POSSIBLE VOLCANIC ACTIVITY."

We wouldn't want to endanger the volcanic activity. Boy, they really
closed the barn door after the horse bolted.

When I asked a briefer about St Helens this morning he only had the,
"don't fly into ash, stupid," NOTAM. I told him I'd seen it from about
40 miles away and it just looked filthy and otherwise harmless. He
said in Wyoming they call that mix of snow and dirt "snirt".

--
Ben Jackson

http://www.ben.com/

"Ben Jackson" wrote in message
news:5m38d.409836$8_6.26683@attbi_s04...
In article ,
NW_PILOT wrote:
I have about a hundred more But here are a few sucked having a 5 mile TFR
today but ohh well.

"...AT AND BELOW 13000 FEET MSL TO PROVIDE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT DUE TO
POSSIBLE VOLCANIC ACTIVITY."

We wouldn't want to endanger the volcanic activity. Boy, they really
closed the barn door after the horse bolted.

There was a TFR in 1980, too. The TFR is not protect the volcano, it is to
protect you. Personally, I am coming around to the opinion that they should
just let anyone in there who wants to see it, including airplanes, as long
as they sign a waiver that they will not sue anyone in the event that they
run into each other or are killed by the volcano.

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Ben Jackson" wrote in message
news:5m38d.409836$8_6.26683@attbi_s04...
In article ,
NW_PILOT wrote:
I have about a hundred more But here are a few sucked having a 5 mile
TFR
today but ohh well.

"...AT AND BELOW 13000 FEET MSL TO PROVIDE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT DUE TO
POSSIBLE VOLCANIC ACTIVITY."

We wouldn't want to endanger the volcanic activity. Boy, they really
closed the barn door after the horse bolted.

There was a TFR in 1980, too. The TFR is not protect the volcano, it is to
protect you. Personally, I am coming around to the opinion that they
should
just let anyone in there who wants to see it, including airplanes, as long
as they sign a waiver that they will not sue anyone in the event that they
run into each other or are killed by the volcano.



Yea like the idiots that are going the wrong way around the mountain maybe
the FAA should have not made the traffic pattern counter clockwise

"NW_PILOT" wrote in message newsrmdnR8ahI3ZUv3cRVn-

Yea like the idiots that are going the wrong way around the mountain maybe
the FAA should have not made the traffic pattern counter clockwise

They asked me yesterday morning if I was familiar with the "recommended
pattern" I said I was staying at least ten miles out, bolting south if I
saw steam, and moving counterclockwise around the mountain. They didn't
acknowledge whether that was the correct pattern. Why they chose
counterclockwise is definately strange.

-c

"gatt" wrote in message
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[...] Why they chose
counterclockwise is definately strange.

Because most pilots are flying their airplane from the left seat. It's the
classic "left traffic by default" rule.

Doesn't seem that strange to me at all.

Pete

"C J Campbell" wrote in message

There was a TFR in 1980, too. The TFR is not protect the volcano, it is to
protect you. Personally, I am coming around to the opinion that they
should
just let anyone in there who wants to see it, including airplanes, as long
as they sign a waiver that they will not sue anyone in the event that they
run into each other or are killed by the volcano.

IIRC there has never been an airplane brought down by Mt. St. Helens
volcanic activity. I do know of a fellow who augured a Huey while giving
some people a sightseeing trip over heard of elk on the east slope. The all
lived...he died instantly as a piece of metal punctured his heart.

-c