Joking?

On 09 Oct 2004 01:39:45 GMT, (Teacherjh)
wrote:

Five years ago, In front of myt own house!

How would it have gone had you not been in front of your own house, and had you
forgotten your ID?

They didn't care that I was in front of my house. I had no way to
prove that it was my house because I didn't have any ID showing where
I lived. I was on my nightly walk and for some reason had emptied my
pockets earlier. I offered to go in to get it, but they wanted no
part of that. After like 15 minutes, they finally wrote down my name
and "supposed address" and made it clear they'd be watching for me
lurking around town. (Lurking is not a quote, but is definitely the
impression they gave).

Is this the way you want to live?
Not a chance. Unless I'm wrong I was responding to a post that made
it sound like this was impossible. I'm walking proof that it is, and
I felt harassed.

z

On 09 Oct 2004 01:39:45 GMT, (Teacherjh)
wrote:

Five years ago, In front of myt own house!

How would it have gone had you not been in front of your own house, and had you
forgotten your ID?

They didn't care that I was in front of my house. I had no way to
prove that it was my house because I didn't have any ID showing where
I lived. I was on my nightly walk and for some reason had emptied my
pockets earlier. I offered to go in to get it, but they wanted no
part of that. After like 15 minutes, they finally wrote down my name
and "supposed address" and made it clear they'd be watching for me
lurking around town. (Lurking is not a quote, but is definitely the
impression they gave).

Is this the way you want to live?
Not a chance. Unless I'm wrong I was responding to a post that made
it sound like this was impossible. I'm walking proof that it is, and
I felt harassed.

z

Selway.... I think you may be exaggerating..
I read parts of S.2774 to show a "standard" for "state" issued ID cards..
like drivers licenses.. that they all meet certain standards prior to issue
to conform to critera and confirm the proper identification of the
individual on the card... before the "national" or "federal" authorities
will accept them as "proper id"
BT

"SelwayKid" wrote in message
m...
Unless you think its all a joke, the recent TSA requirement for CFI's
to register with them, and do their own bookkeeping. making a database
at your expense, all in the name of national security, take another
look at what is happening.
H.R.10 and S.2774 for a National Identity Card are right behind it.
I've been warning of this for over 20 years and now its happening
while we sleep.
Not sure about you all but I sure as hell am making some noise about
it.If you want to be stopped on the street and asked for your papers,
and get locked up for not having them, ..........
Better take a stand now before its too late.

Selway.... I think you may be exaggerating..
I read parts of S.2774 to show a "standard" for "state" issued ID cards..
like drivers licenses.. that they all meet certain standards prior to issue
to conform to critera and confirm the proper identification of the
individual on the card... before the "national" or "federal" authorities
will accept them as "proper id"
BT

"SelwayKid" wrote in message
m...
Unless you think its all a joke, the recent TSA requirement for CFI's
to register with them, and do their own bookkeeping. making a database
at your expense, all in the name of national security, take another
look at what is happening.
H.R.10 and S.2774 for a National Identity Card are right behind it.
I've been warning of this for over 20 years and now its happening
while we sleep.
Not sure about you all but I sure as hell am making some noise about
it.If you want to be stopped on the street and asked for your papers,
and get locked up for not having them, ..........
Better take a stand now before its too late.

On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 03:40:37 GMT, zatatime wrote:

Is this the way you want to live?
Not a chance. Unless I'm wrong I was responding to a post that made
it sound like this was impossible. I'm walking proof that it is, and
I felt harassed.

You sure are black and live in South Africa. Arpartheid is still not gone
there. You should immigrate to the US where life is so much better.

#m

--
Somehow, some way, the Left trash talks "multi-national corporations" and
"big corporations" as if they were messengers of evil, when, in fact,
corporations represent the ultimate, perfect expression of communal
ownership of capital. (Jay Honeck in r.a.p.)

On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 03:40:37 GMT, zatatime wrote:

Is this the way you want to live?
Not a chance. Unless I'm wrong I was responding to a post that made
it sound like this was impossible. I'm walking proof that it is, and
I felt harassed.

You sure are black and live in South Africa. Arpartheid is still not gone
there. You should immigrate to the US where life is so much better.

#m

--
Somehow, some way, the Left trash talks "multi-national corporations" and
"big corporations" as if they were messengers of evil, when, in fact,
corporations represent the ultimate, perfect expression of communal
ownership of capital. (Jay Honeck in r.a.p.)

What if you were out for a walk in you neighborhood and didn't happen to
have it on you and you run into some real gung ho cop? Are you sure you can
talk your way out of getting arrested? Are you sure everybody, in similar
circumstances could?

mike regish

"Bob Gardner" wrote in message
...
I don't want to start a flame war, but I have carried an ID card since 1946
and it has had no adverse effect on my life.

Bob Gardner

"SelwayKid" wrote in message
m...
Unless you think its all a joke, the recent TSA requirement for CFI's
to register with them, and do their own bookkeeping. making a database
at your expense, all in the name of national security, take another
look at what is happening.
H.R.10 and S.2774 for a National Identity Card are right behind it.
I've been warning of this for over 20 years and now its happening
while we sleep.
Not sure about you all but I sure as hell am making some noise about
it.If you want to be stopped on the street and asked for your papers,
and get locked up for not having them, ..........
Better take a stand now before its too late.

What if you were out for a walk in you neighborhood and didn't happen to
have it on you and you run into some real gung ho cop? Are you sure you can
talk your way out of getting arrested? Are you sure everybody, in similar
circumstances could?

mike regish

"Bob Gardner" wrote in message
...
I don't want to start a flame war, but I have carried an ID card since 1946
and it has had no adverse effect on my life.

Bob Gardner

"SelwayKid" wrote in message
m...
Unless you think its all a joke, the recent TSA requirement for CFI's
to register with them, and do their own bookkeeping. making a database
at your expense, all in the name of national security, take another
look at what is happening.
H.R.10 and S.2774 for a National Identity Card are right behind it.
I've been warning of this for over 20 years and now its happening
while we sleep.
Not sure about you all but I sure as hell am making some noise about
it.If you want to be stopped on the street and asked for your papers,
and get locked up for not having them, ..........
Better take a stand now before its too late.

"BTIZ" wrote in message news:dXJ9d.10022$_a3.7048@fed1read05...
Selway.... I think you may be exaggerating..
I read parts of S.2774 to show a "standard" for "state" issued ID cards..
like drivers licenses.. that they all meet certain standards prior to issue
to conform to critera and confirm the proper identification of the
individual on the card... before the "national" or "federal" authorities
will accept them as "proper id"
BT

BT I doubt I'll be alive to see it, but you can mark this one down in
bronze. Once the national ID card is law, and it will be, the social
security number will be your personal national ID number, and sometime
in the future there will be a provision for that number to be
imprinted/implanted in/on your body to be read by special equipment
that only your benevolent government will have (or so it will be
claimed) and all they have to do is point said equipment at you to
know all they need to know. It will all be on one big data base. It
isn't hard at all to show this theory at work either. Prized animals
already have this technology in use and its a short step to convince
some young mother that her children should have this protection too
and once they grow up with it, ..."well I've had it all my life so
what is wrong with it?..." and so it goes.
Selway Kid

"SelwayKid" wrote in message
m...
Unless you think its all a joke, the recent TSA requirement for CFI's
to register with them, and do their own bookkeeping. making a database
at your expense, all in the name of national security, take another
look at what is happening.
H.R.10 and S.2774 for a National Identity Card are right behind it.
I've been warning of this for over 20 years and now its happening
while we sleep.
Not sure about you all but I sure as hell am making some noise about
it.If you want to be stopped on the street and asked for your papers,
and get locked up for not having them, ..........
Better take a stand now before its too late.

"BTIZ" wrote in message news:dXJ9d.10022$_a3.7048@fed1read05...
Selway.... I think you may be exaggerating..
I read parts of S.2774 to show a "standard" for "state" issued ID cards..
like drivers licenses.. that they all meet certain standards prior to issue
to conform to critera and confirm the proper identification of the
individual on the card... before the "national" or "federal" authorities
will accept them as "proper id"
BT

BT I doubt I'll be alive to see it, but you can mark this one down in
bronze. Once the national ID card is law, and it will be, the social
security number will be your personal national ID number, and sometime
in the future there will be a provision for that number to be
imprinted/implanted in/on your body to be read by special equipment
that only your benevolent government will have (or so it will be
claimed) and all they have to do is point said equipment at you to
know all they need to know. It will all be on one big data base. It
isn't hard at all to show this theory at work either. Prized animals
already have this technology in use and its a short step to convince
some young mother that her children should have this protection too
and once they grow up with it, ..."well I've had it all my life so
what is wrong with it?..." and so it goes.
Selway Kid

"SelwayKid" wrote in message
m...
Unless you think its all a joke, the recent TSA requirement for CFI's
to register with them, and do their own bookkeeping. making a database
at your expense, all in the name of national security, take another
look at what is happening.
H.R.10 and S.2774 for a National Identity Card are right behind it.
I've been warning of this for over 20 years and now its happening
while we sleep.
Not sure about you all but I sure as hell am making some noise about
it.If you want to be stopped on the street and asked for your papers,
and get locked up for not having them, ..........
Better take a stand now before its too late.