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Old November 5th 04, 02:41 AM
Newps
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PJ Hunt wrote:

It is because no pilot would dare take off or land on an icy runway, and


yes

they are meticulously cleared at major airports.


There's an "airport" somewhere in the Northeast that is simply a runway
plowed on a lake. Ops on a snow covered runway are fun.

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Old November 5th 04, 03:25 AM
PJ Hunt
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You miss quoted me.. I did not write that. (Notice the preceding the
text.)

What I wrote was the response that whoever did write it obviously has not
flown in Alaska in the winter time. And I agree with you, frozen lakes are
fun, there's tons of them up here, and tons of snow covered runways too. And
a couple of plowed ones now and then.

PJ

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Here's to the duck who swam a lake and never lost a feather,
May sometime another year, we all be back together.
JJW
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"Newps" wrote in message
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PJ Hunt wrote:

It is because no pilot would dare take off or land on an icy runway, and


yes

they are meticulously cleared at major airports.


There's an "airport" somewhere in the Northeast that is simply a runway
plowed on a lake. Ops on a snow covered runway are fun.



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Old November 5th 04, 05:50 PM
John Galban
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Newps wrote in message ...
PJ Hunt wrote:

It is because no pilot would dare take off or land on an icy runway, and


yes

they are meticulously cleared at major airports.


There's an "airport" somewhere in the Northeast that is simply a runway
plowed on a lake. Ops on a snow covered runway are fun.



It's Alton Bay in New Hampshire. Seaplanes in summer, ice runway in winter.

http://www.airnav.com/airport/B18

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)
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Old November 5th 04, 09:09 AM
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Just wondering where you fly Greg? Snow is a fact of life in the north.

We have had at our airport (3CK) a couple of people slide off the runway
when there is blowing snow and/or some ice.
The snow removal crews do the best they can (better than the roads) but we
still deal with slippery runways during the winter. In these conditions you
really learn that the flight does not end until the engine is shut down.

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"Greg Butler" wrote in message
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why is it that we don't ever hear of aircraft skidding and going
off-track while taxiing or even during takeoff/landing? Is the lack of
such incidents only because of the meticulousness of ice clearance by
airport authorities?


It is because no pilot would dare take off or land on an icy runway, and

yes
they are meticulously cleared at major airports.




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Old November 5th 04, 11:42 AM
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"SFM" wrote in message

Just wondering where you fly Greg? Snow is a fact of life in the north.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Read the post. He said, "Is a non-aviator airing a doubt ok with you
folks?"

More clear now?
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Old November 5th 04, 01:12 PM
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The original post was the non-flyer, Greg was one of the respondents to that
non-flyer question. The first poster had a double () indent and the Greg's
post had a single() indent. Therefore the assumption is that since Greg did
not say he was not a pilot and made a statement about what a pilot would do
and not do that he is a pilot. He states in further messages in the thread
that he is indeed a pilot.

See below.

"Greg Butler" wrote in message
. ..

why is it that we don't ever hear of aircraft skidding and going
off-track while taxiing or even during takeoff/landing? Is the lack of
such incidents only because of the meticulousness of ice clearance by
airport authorities?


It is because no pilot would dare take off or land on an icy runway, and

yes
they are meticulously cleared at major airports.



It was clear to me in the first place. Is it clear to you now? Happy to help
explain usenet posts for you such that you may not be confused in the
future, it has happened to all of us at sometime.


Happy flying

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swallowing is that I live in a country where more than half the
population is willfully ignorant, politically obstinate, religiously
prejudiced, and embarrassingly gullible."

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"SFM" wrote in message

Just wondering where you fly Greg? Snow is a fact of life in the north.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Read the post. He said, "Is a non-aviator airing a doubt ok with you
folks?"

More clear now?
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Old November 5th 04, 11:30 PM
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"SFM" wrote in message
...
The original post was the non-flyer, Greg was one of the respondents to

that
non-flyer question. The first poster had a double () indent and the

Greg's
post had a single() indent. Therefore the assumption is that since Greg

did
not say he was not a pilot and made a statement about what a pilot would

do
and not do that he is a pilot. He states in further messages in the thread
that he is indeed a pilot.



I see the problem, now. It is your asinine use of top posting. See, I
don't (and lots of others also) remember the name of the OP, so when you
ask Greg a question, it is out of context, as to the line and order of the
thread, because few (me included) will take the time to scroll and figure
the mess out.

Bottom posting makes more sense when replying to *parts* of a post,
especially when it is in answer to an older post.

And yes, I understand what and means, mr buttholier thanthou.
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Old November 5th 04, 06:13 PM
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Just wondering where you fly Greg? Snow is a fact of life in the north.


You are right. I should have thought of my southern bias before posting.
They're always clear in Florida!


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Old November 6th 04, 11:37 AM
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In article , SFM wrote:

Just wondering where you fly Greg? Snow is a fact of life in the north.

We have had at our airport (3CK) a couple of people slide off the runway
when there is blowing snow and/or some ice.
The snow removal crews do the best they can (better than the roads) but we
still deal with slippery runways during the winter. In these conditions you
really learn that the flight does not end until the engine is shut down.


Dontcha just love being blown sideways on a cold windy evening when the
melted snow from the daytime sun has refrozen into a continuous sheet
of ice across the taxiway?
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Old November 11th 04, 03:20 PM
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Um...I've been to Alton Bay several times in the winter. They plow out a
3000' runway on the ice. I usually use about 1500' of it.

mike regish

"Greg Butler" wrote in message
. ..

why is it that we don't ever hear of aircraft skidding and going
off-track while taxiing or even during takeoff/landing? Is the lack of
such incidents only because of the meticulousness of ice clearance by
airport authorities?


It is because no pilot would dare take off or land on an icy runway, and
yes they are meticulously cleared at major airports.



 




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