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Old November 8th 04, 06:30 AM
Tina Marie
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In article , Tobias Schnell wrote:
A two-engine plane landed on its belly in a grassy field next to the
runway at Weiser Air Park in northwest Harris County on Saturday. The


KEYQ in Houston is Weiser


Isn't TwinCo-Michael flying out of Weiser?


Yes, but it wasn't Michael. It wasn't a twin, it wasn't a gear-up landing,
and it wasn't a grassy field next to the runway.

It was a Warrior (something-92C), the left main fell apart on takeoff
from West Houston, they brought it back to Weiser, where they did
a picture-perfect landing on the grass runway. CFI and student.

Tina Marie
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Old November 9th 04, 05:54 PM
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Dave S wrote
Plane lands in field near runway

A two-engine plane landed on its belly in a grassy field next to the
runway at Weiser Air Park in northwest Harris County on Saturday. The
pilot was able to land the plane after the left-wing wheel fell off,
according to the Cy-Fair Volunteer Fire Department. No one was injured
in the landing.

KEYQ in Houston is Weiser


Believe less of what you read.

The plane was the rare and unusual Twin Cherokee. Well, not really.
It was a flight school Warrior. The left main simply fell off one
fine day. Those of you familiar with the gear system will know that
the scissors assembly contains three bolts. Two of them are
castle-nutted and cotter-pinned. Loss of any one of them will be
sufficient to lose the gear assembly on takeoff, which is exactly what
happened. We won't discuss why the bolt(s) departed. It's a rental.

The pilot (CFI) landed on the crossing grass strip, which is
designated emergency use only, on the advice of another pilot - sort
of an elder statesman on the airport. I personally do not concur with
that advice - I would have opted for pavement for all the reasons
already given in this thread - but I wasn't on the radio. I was
standing by with a fire extinguisher in a truck by the end of the
runway in case the fire department didn't show.

The pilot (CFI) also elected to land flaps up, on the advice of the
same pilot. What I think of that suggestion (offered on base at that)
does not bear repeating, but once again I was not in a position to do
anything.

The pilot (CFI) did an EXCELLENT job. He burned most of the fuel out
of the left tank. The landing was made at minimum airspeed (for flaps
up), the mixture was pulled in the flare, and the left wing (the one
without the gear) was kept as light as possible as long as possible.
When the plane got too slow to keep the left wing up, it dropped into
the grass and the plane skidded around about 90 degrees to the left.
There was minor damage to the left flap and that was about it, as far
as I can tell.

A mechanic was standing by with the gear. We lifted the wing, he
popped in the gear, and the plane was towed to the shop. Then
everyone went home, and I went flying.

I don't see why there would be an NTSB report at all. The damage to
the plane was minor, and all of the sort specifically excluded from
the definiion of significant damage.

Michael
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Old November 10th 04, 02:22 AM
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"Michael" wrote in message om...
Dave S wrote
Plane lands in field near runway

A two-engine plane landed on its belly in a grassy field next to the
runway at Weiser Air Park in northwest Harris County on Saturday. The
pilot was able to land the plane after the left-wing wheel fell off,
according to the Cy-Fair Volunteer Fire Department. No one was injured
in the landing.

KEYQ in Houston is Weiser


Believe less of what you read.

The plane was the rare and unusual Twin Cherokee. Well, not really.
It was a flight school Warrior. The left main simply fell off one
fine day. Those of you familiar with the gear system will know that
the scissors assembly contains three bolts. Two of them are
castle-nutted and cotter-pinned. Loss of any one of them will be
sufficient to lose the gear assembly on takeoff, which is exactly what
happened. We won't discuss why the bolt(s) departed. It's a rental.

The pilot (CFI) landed on the crossing grass strip, which is
designated emergency use only, on the advice of another pilot - sort
of an elder statesman on the airport. I personally do not concur with
that advice - I would have opted for pavement for all the reasons
already given in this thread - but I wasn't on the radio. I was
standing by with a fire extinguisher in a truck by the end of the
runway in case the fire department didn't show.

The pilot (CFI) also elected to land flaps up, on the advice of the
same pilot. What I think of that suggestion (offered on base at that)
does not bear repeating, but once again I was not in a position to do
anything.

The pilot (CFI) did an EXCELLENT job. He burned most of the fuel out
of the left tank. The landing was made at minimum airspeed (for flaps
up), the mixture was pulled in the flare, and the left wing (the one
without the gear) was kept as light as possible as long as possible.
When the plane got too slow to keep the left wing up, it dropped into
the grass and the plane skidded around about 90 degrees to the left.
There was minor damage to the left flap and that was about it, as far
as I can tell.

A mechanic was standing by with the gear. We lifted the wing, he
popped in the gear, and the plane was towed to the shop. Then
everyone went home, and I went flying.

I don't see why there would be an NTSB report at all. The damage to
the plane was minor, and all of the sort specifically excluded from
the definiion of significant damage.

Michael


How did they know the wheel fell off?


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Old November 10th 04, 05:24 PM
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"Blueskies" wrote
How did they know the wheel fell off?


They were told on the radio, as they approached for landing minus a wheel.

Michael
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Old November 10th 04, 06:51 PM
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In article , "Blueskies" writes:


How did they know the wheel fell off?



They had been doing landings at West Houston airport (where
most landing training is done for students out of Weiser, since
Weiser's landing strip is no wider than a postage stamp, and
the winds are crosswinds almost all the time), and the wheel
fell off on the runway there after their last one, as they were
departing back to Weiser. Someone at West Houston notcied it and
told 'em by radio. Leastwise, that's what the guys at the FBO
told me. Good thing they didn't decide to do one more
touch & go, nicht wahr?


I was booked for a lesson in that plane (Warrior 92C) the next hour,
so I just barely missed out on seeing this happen, first hand.
I've had to endure a lot of ribbing about the fact that I did
almost all of my training in that plane (including lots of
landings...). I'm now training in one of the other Warriors
there ( 5ST, it has new upholstery!).

Lee K. Gleason N5ZMR
Control-G Consultants

 




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