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E6B vs. Jepp CR-3 "hand propped" Flight Compters.



 
 
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Old November 29th 04, 07:13 PM
Jose
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I use [the E6B] all the time for flight planning, just like I always did.

What part of the flight planning do you use it for? Are you in
training or have you already gotten your PPL?


I have my PPL (SEL), instrument rating, and 800 hours. I like to fly
low, so more detailled flight planning is necessary than if I just
pointed my nose into the sky and survey the world from 6500 feet. I
use VFR checkpoints every 10-30 minutes, depending on landmarks, and
use it for calculating time for each leg, wind correction angle,
estimated ground speed (which impacts fuel stops; I also use airnav
and the telephone for gas prices and availability - fifteen miles can
mean a hundred dollars difference in fuel costs), and just about
everything except weight and balance (for which I use CoPilot on my Palm)

Once in the air, I'll keep track of my times to next checkpoint in the
flight log, but I use mental estimates (and the GPS if I feel lazy) to
do any calculations I need. But most of the time I'm looking out the
window.

IFR I do the same thing, except that most of the time I'm copying down
amended clearances, negating most of the preflight planning.

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Old November 29th 04, 08:34 PM
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Does anyone actually use an E6B anymore? If so, what for?


Maybe it is just me...I like taildraggers, I like radial engines, and I like
my E6B. I use it all the time for flight planning and keep it handy in the
cockpit.

Carl.


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Old November 30th 04, 01:09 AM
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:34:13 -0800, "Slip'er"
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Does anyone actually use an E6B anymore? If so, what for?



Maybe it is just me...I like taildraggers, I like radial engines, and I like
my E6B. I use it all the time for flight planning and keep it handy in the
cockpit.

Carl.


Nope, not just you, but we are getting more scarce.

z
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Old November 30th 04, 01:09 AM
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:37:56 -0500, Corky Scott
wrote:

Does anyone actually use an E6B anymore? If so, what for?



Yep. Have had the same one for about 20 years. I use it for all my
flight planning, and sometimes when I can't find my calculator to do
math.

z
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Old November 30th 04, 06:22 AM
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taking tests?

BT

"Corky Scott" wrote in message
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:47:07 -0600, "Bill Denton"
wrote:

I am currently using a Jepp CR-3, but I'm working on my Christmas list and
I'm wondering if I should add an E6B.

Does one have any advantages over the other as far as real life, training,
exams, go?

As a separate issue, I am also looking at the Jepp TechStar, the CX-2
Pathfinder, and Sporty's electronic flight computers.

Any recommendations?


Does anyone actually use an E6B anymore? If so, what for?

Corky (just wondering) Scott



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Old November 29th 04, 08:17 PM
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Bill Denton wrote:

I am currently using a Jepp CR-3, but I'm working on my Christmas list and
I'm wondering if I should add an E6B.


For high speeds the CR computers have an advantage. They correct for
compressibility, and temperature rise at the OAT probe too.

On the other hand, I think wind problems are easier on an E-6B because
you read GS and WCA directly off the instrument after plotting the
wind dot and setting course. The CR solves for wind in a completely
different way, which saves a lot of space but makes more demands on
the user.

Since you're interested enough to ask, why not go ahead and get an
E-6B? It's not like they're a high cost item.

Or you could buy a military whiz wheel on eBay. I see them there
frequently.

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Old November 30th 04, 04:30 PM
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Thanks to all for your advice. I may just go ahead and pick up an E6B, just
to play with, if nothing else!



"Bill Denton" wrote in message
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I am currently using a Jepp CR-3, but I'm working on my Christmas list and
I'm wondering if I should add an E6B.

Does one have any advantages over the other as far as real life, training,
exams, go?

As a separate issue, I am also looking at the Jepp TechStar, the CX-2
Pathfinder, and Sporty's electronic flight computers.

Any recommendations?

TIA




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Old December 2nd 04, 08:36 AM
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On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Bill Denton wrote:

Thanks to all for your advice. I may just go ahead and pick up an E6B, just
to play with, if nothing else!


If you're just wanting a 'test' E6B, see if you can get one of the
'student model' cardboard & plastic ones; they're about a third the price
of a 'real' aluminum/plastic E6B, have identical functions, and are
surprisingly tough.

200hrs+ into flying, I'm still using my slightly battered, coffee-marked
'student' cardboard E6B, because I haven't gotten around to buying myself a
'real' one... after I do buy an aluminum E6B, I'll keep the cardboard one
on my desk for flightplanning and fiddling...

Brian
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Old December 2nd 04, 05:00 PM
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"Brian Burger" wrote in message
ia.tc.ca...
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Bill Denton wrote:

Thanks to all for your advice. I may just go ahead and pick up an E6B,
just
to play with, if nothing else!


If you're just wanting a 'test' E6B, see if you can get one of the
'student model' cardboard & plastic ones; they're about a third the price
of a 'real' aluminum/plastic E6B, have identical functions, and are
surprisingly tough.

200hrs+ into flying, I'm still using my slightly battered, coffee-marked
'student' cardboard E6B, because I haven't gotten around to buying myself
a
'real' one... after I do buy an aluminum E6B, I'll keep the cardboard one
on my desk for flightplanning and fiddling...

Brian
PP-ASEL/Night


I never used an E6B until recently and now think that it is pretty cool. I
bought a large aluminium one and would like to find an old (WWII) one.
Whoever came up with it was pretty clever!

Mike
MU-2


 




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