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Old November 30th 04, 03:13 AM
Morgans
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"Rick Durden" wrote in message

He made
a crack about ultralights that was probably uncalled for, as it
offended a lot of people who didn't realize it was in jest.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Proper manners would be to issue an apology, right? If the comment was a
made in jest, set the record straight.

Did he apologize? If I missed it, OK, but if not, it is not too late to set
the record straight.
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Jim in NC



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Old November 30th 04, 05:29 AM
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Proper manners would be to issue an apology, right?

Jim, have you apologized for every single jesting remark you've made
in your life?

vince norris
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Old November 30th 04, 07:16 AM
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"vincent p. norris" wrote in message
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Proper manners would be to issue an apology, right?


Jim, have you apologized for every single jesting remark you've made
in your life?

vince norris


The big difference here is that he made a remark about the very industry he
is representing. I'm also not in the public eye like he is.

So in answer to your question, I would hope that were I in the same
position, I would do the right thing and apologize, especially when a bunch
of people took exception to what was said.
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Old November 30th 04, 04:28 PM
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He made
a crack about ultralights that was probably uncalled for,



Probably? I don't think so. I wouldn't fly in one of those death traps
either.
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Old November 30th 04, 08:03 PM
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We all have our comfort level with safety. Just because it is
certified doesn't make it safe. There are levels of safety in this
business. I couldn't imagine that light aircraft are as safe as a 747
and ultralights got to be somewhat less than that. Just because my
parachute is certified, doesn't mean I want to fly in it. I'll fly
light aircraft any time, but that's where my comfort level ends also.
My insurance man knows best - light aircraft yes, ultralights, they
don't pay.

As to if he should head some organization or not, that's a different
subject.

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Old December 2nd 04, 03:54 AM
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I couldn't imagine that light aircraft are as safe as a 747
and ultralights got to be somewhat less than that.


Is a 747 "safer" than a J-3, or is it FLOWN more safely?

There's very little to go wrong in a J-3, and not much more in a
Cherokee or Cessna 172. In an emergency, they can be landed almost
anywhere. The accident reports show pretty clearly, I think, that GA
aircraft accidents are the fault of the pilot, not the airplane.

I suspect the same is true of ultralights.

vince norris
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Old November 30th 04, 10:43 AM
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"Steven Barnes" wrote in message
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I went to my local FBO tonight for more time in the Diamond Star. I missed
Harrison Ford by 5 minutes. Watched his Pilatus warm up, taxi out & take
off. DAMN! I guess he just stopped for fuel. The guys at 1st Class knew he
was coming, so they hit him up for pictures & autographs. He signed
somebody's Indiana Jones box set. I was so ****ed.

It was a nice night for flying, though...

--



PP-ASEL, instrument


I seriously doubt that Harrison Ford would like you bothering him, Myself
knowing a lot of people that have TV/Music popularity they don't like to be
bothered by people and would just like to live their life in peace. Most don
't mind the casual introduction or greeting while passing but to go out of
your way! That I believe is rude and so do they. They are just people like
you and I, just a different tax bracket how would you like it to be bothered
every ware you go?


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Old November 30th 04, 02:10 PM
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your way! That I believe is rude and so do they. They are just people like
you and I, just a different tax bracket how would you like it to be
bothered
every ware you go?


I agree, but it's tough.

When my 14 year old son and I ran into Brett Favre at the Green Bay FBO this
fall, it took everything I had not to go running up to him like a little
kid, begging for an autograph. Instead, I casually (well, as casual as I
could act) told him where his pilot had gone (to the other FBO), while my
son just stood there in stunned awe.

In retrospect, I wish I had been more rude, and asked for an autograph...

;-)
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old December 2nd 04, 02:53 PM
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"NW_PILOT" wrote in message
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They are just people like
you and I, just a different tax bracket how would you like it to be

bothered
every ware you go?


I agree that they are just people, but they also have to realize that they
owe their success to the buying public. Hey, if you saw Indiana Jones at the
theater, rented it, or bought the boxed set, some of your money is sitting
in Mr. Ford's bank account right now or is invested into a piece of
property.

If you don't like to be hounded and recognized everywhere you go, don't get
into the entertainment business (which includes pro sports). It simply is
part of the job. My sympathies are with those who are thrust into the public
eye against their will, not with the stars whose popularity makes them rich,
but aren't willing to deal with the other side of that coin. Some stars
handle this well, some don't.

-Trent
PP-ASEL


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Old December 2nd 04, 03:55 PM
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Having been, albeit at a modest level, on both sides of that fence, may I
mention a few things?

Even the biggest stars sometimes have to make a quick run to the convenience
store for a loaf of bread, and sometimes they have to do it right in the
middle of a fight with their husband or wife, their agent, or whomever. Or
they might have gotten a traffic ticket on the way to the store.

I think most of us can understand how they might not be at their most
personable in the checkout line. While stars may be rich and famous,
underneath all of that they have the same responsibilities and worries as
the rest of us.

So let me pass along a few tips for those who might want an autograph or a
pictu

Walk up to the star at a normal pace, and stop at a respectful distance, 3
or 4 feet away. Unfortunately, in our society, many high-profile people are
faced with constant threats from stalkers or other mentally unbalanced
people. Run up and jump on a stars lap and you can rest assured that you are
not going to get an autograph; at best you will probably have a very
unpleasant encounter with a very large bodyguard or the police.

Respect a stars privacy. If they are out with their kids, or just having a
quiet meal, don't disturb them. You wouldn't want someone stopping you every
five seconds under those circumstances, they don't either.

It's okay to approach and start a simple conversation, but leave it open
ended. Start with something like: "Mr. Ford, I really enjoyed your last
movie", or "Ms. Zellweger, I loved you in the Bridget Jones movies". If they
reply with nothing more than "thank you" or "thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed
it" and turn back to what they are doing, just walk away and be satisfied
that you got to the see them, at least. But if they say something like: "I
see you have a camera, would you like a picture?" or "would you like an
autograph for your future grandchildren?", feel free to take advantage of
the opportunity. But be respectful of other people who might also want a
minute with the star, don't hog the stars time.

Most stars are constantly aware that without their fans, they wouldn't have
their fame and fortune, and a certain amount of contact with their fans is
part of the bargain. But keep in mind, while some stars are nothing more
than assholes, they do have to deal with all of the day to day problems the
rest of us do. They're entitled to a bad day every now and then just like
the rest of us.

And keep in mind, the only thing a star REALLY owes his or her fans is a
performance worthy of the price the fan paid for it...









"Trent Moorehead" wrote in message
...

"NW_PILOT" wrote in message
...

They are just people like
you and I, just a different tax bracket how would you like it to be

bothered
every ware you go?


I agree that they are just people, but they also have to realize that they
owe their success to the buying public. Hey, if you saw Indiana Jones at

the
theater, rented it, or bought the boxed set, some of your money is sitting
in Mr. Ford's bank account right now or is invested into a piece of
property.

If you don't like to be hounded and recognized everywhere you go, don't

get
into the entertainment business (which includes pro sports). It simply is
part of the job. My sympathies are with those who are thrust into the

public
eye against their will, not with the stars whose popularity makes them

rich,
but aren't willing to deal with the other side of that coin. Some stars
handle this well, some don't.

-Trent
PP-ASEL




 




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