Are you gliding when you touch down?

Oops.
I meant cutting the power, not cutting the pattern


I thought that was a standard pattern. Now, in my Beech, I do a similar
pattern, usually cutting the pattern either close to the threshold, or in
the flare. Any disadvantages to this approach?

Adam
N7966L
Beech Super III

"mindenpilot" wrote in message
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"John Doe" wrote in message
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I guess my question is simply put this way, do you cut power
immediately before touching down? If not, when?

I suppose a carrier landing would be an extreme.

Only curious. Thank you.

For standard landings, am I the only one who learned (in a C-172) 2100RPM
10 degree flaps on downwind, 1700/20 on base, 1700/30 or 40 on final, cut
the power over the threshold (maybe a little later) ?

I thought that was a standard pattern. Now, in my Beech, I do a similar
pattern, usually cutting the pattern either close to the threshold, or in
the flare. Any disadvantages to this approach?

Adam
N7966L
Beech Super III


I was taught (C172SP)
- Abeam the numbers: 1500 rpm + flaps 10
- Base: 1500 + flaps 20
- Final: Flaps 30, pitch for 65-70kts, adjust power as needed for constant
GS
- Power off as I cross the runway end lights (add a very small amount of
power in the flare for a nice soft touchdown...but not if I'm a little hot
so as to avoid more float.)

"mindenpilot" wrote in message
For standard landings, am I the only one who learned (in a C-172) 2100RPM
10 degree flaps on downwind, 1700/20 on base, 1700/30 or 40 on final, cut
the power over the threshold (maybe a little later) ?

"Jay Beckman" wrote:
I was taught (C172SP)
- Abeam the numbers: 1500 rpm + flaps 10
- Base: 1500 + flaps 20
- Final: Flaps 30, pitch for 65-70kts, adjust power as needed
for constant GS
- Power off as I cross the runway end lights (add a very small
amount of power in the flare for a nice soft touchdown...but not
if I'm a little hot so as to avoid more float.)

I was taught (C152, little or no wind):
- 2100 rpm on downwind
- 1700 rpm abeam the numbers/10° flaps at white arc
- 1300-1500 rpm on base/20° flaps; pitch & trim for 60ish
- Final: adjust power only for GS; last 10° of flaps only as needed
- cut power when I know I have the runway made (not always in the same
specific place, and later with full flaps)

wrote in message
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"mindenpilot" wrote in message
For standard landings, am I the only one who learned (in a C-172)
2100RPM
10 degree flaps on downwind, 1700/20 on base, 1700/30 or 40 on final,
cut
the power over the threshold (maybe a little later) ?

"Jay Beckman" wrote:
I was taught (C172SP)
- Abeam the numbers: 1500 rpm + flaps 10
- Base: 1500 + flaps 20
- Final: Flaps 30, pitch for 65-70kts, adjust power as needed
for constant GS
- Power off as I cross the runway end lights (add a very small
amount of power in the flare for a nice soft touchdown...but not
if I'm a little hot so as to avoid more float.)

I was taught (C152, little or no wind):
- 2100 rpm on downwind
- 1700 rpm abeam the numbers/10° flaps at white arc
- 1300-1500 rpm on base/20° flaps; pitch & trim for 60ish
- Final: adjust power only for GS; last 10° of flaps only as needed
- cut power when I know I have the runway made (not always in the same
specific place, and later with full flaps)

It sounds like we all have a similar way of landing.
I feel better.
I posted because everyone else was talking about cutting power on downwind.
How common is this?
Doesn't seem too many people were taught this way.

Adam

"mindenpilot" wrote:
I posted because everyone else was talking about
cutting power on downwind. How common is this?
Doesn't seem too many people were taught this way.

Isn't *everyone* taught HOW to make a power-off approach (cutting power
abeam the numbers) before soloing, just in case? I work at a flight
school and have never known anyone to teach routinely making *all*
approaches power-off, though.

wrote in message
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"mindenpilot" wrote:
I posted because everyone else was talking about
cutting power on downwind. How common is this?
Doesn't seem too many people were taught this way.

Isn't *everyone* taught HOW to make a power-off approach (cutting power
abeam the numbers) before soloing, just in case? I work at a flight
school and have never known anyone to teach routinely making *all*
approaches power-off, though.

I was taught simulated engine failure approaches, and practice them
periodically in my plane.
The OP asked if you cut power immediately before touchdown.
A surprising number of posters responded saying they cut the power on
downwind.
I was assuming this is their normal pattern procedure.
Did I misread, or are people flying patterns much differently than I am?
That is why I asked, How common is this?

Adam

This is the only way I was taught to land.
"Brian" wrote in message
oups.com...
I cut the power anywhere from immediatly after taking off (Aborted
Takeoff) to just after taxing off the runway(Soft Field Landing)

In my Glider I cut the power typically at about 2000' AGL(Release from
the Towplane). It usually takes me about 3 hours to get around to
actually landing.

I power aircraft I normally cut the power on downwind abeam my touch
down point and they try to adjust my configuration (Flaps), glide path
and airspeed
to land at a specified spot on the Runway without having to add power
again.

But I use a different techniques for Short and Soft Field landings.
Brian
CFIIG/ASEL





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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:46:00 GMT, "ShawnD2112"
wrote:

Standard
landing, wind no factor, I cut power on downwind and glide all the way in.

Me too. Carb heat goes on as soon as I enter the downwind, and the
power comes off when I am abreast my landing spot. I advance the
throttle at least once on each leg for a couple seconds. If I need
power on final, I add it and give myself a D for that landing.

If I glide right in, I give myself a C. If I have to slip, it's a B.

An A is awarded only for a perfect wheelie.

In any event, it's a glide from abreast the landing spot. Never tried
it on a carrier



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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:03:09 -0800, "mindenpilot"
wrote:

For standard landings, am I the only one who learned (in a C-172) 2100RPM 10
degree flaps on downwind, 1700/20 on base, 1700/30 or 40 on final, cut the
power over the threshold (maybe a little later) ?

My first instructor was a marine. He taught me to go to 1500 rpm
abreast the landing spot and fly the pattern thus, chopping power on
final. When he went off to the airlines, his more traditional
successor taught power-off landings.

No flaps in the Cub.


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A surprising number of posters responded saying they cut the power on
downwind.
I was assuming this is their normal pattern procedure.
Did I misread, or are people flying patterns much differently than I am?
That is why I asked, How common is this?

It's my normal procedure. I'm always open to suggestion, however. If
someone is landing straight in, I'll add power and extend my downwind.
If there's someone in the pattern behind him, I'll make a power-on
pattern.

I like being close to the airport. I'm never so unhappy as when flying
the 45. I'd much rather fly straight to the airport and then descend
upon the downwind, but it makes the local folks unhappy. "The pattern
is sacred!" one of them told me. (She's a minister on Sundays.)


-- all the best, Dan Ford

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