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Old January 30th 05, 01:50 PM
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ABC and others are reporting that Bush is speaking at the "Congress of
Tomorrow" luncheon in Greenbriar on Saturday to "preview" his state of
the union message. That doesn't explictly say if he's speaking there
in person or not though. Some of his addresses have been remote.

In a Potomac Tracon tour yesterday it was mentioned that "cost and
benefit analysis doesn't apply to security restrictions". Meaning that
the FAA's usual decision process to implement or remove a rule isn't
being used here. Basically the FAA is pretty much at the mercy of the
same DHS security folks as we are and the "hurting GA" argument doesn't
carry water with them.

I think you may be on to something with this "ultimate status symbol"
thing. After all, if a bunker for nuclear war isn't safe from a little
plane, well, that's pretty sad construction. And, if they were having
the luncheon outside the bunker, well then we ought to object for them
not using the facility provided!

-Malcolm Teas

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Old January 30th 05, 02:08 PM
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Example: When the truck drivers of this country (or farmers) decide to
make a point, they drive into DC and bring it to a halt for a few hours
or day or so.


It is obvious even to the uneducated that farmers and truck drivers
are essential to the functioning of this country. For such a stunt to
have any chance of working for GA, it would have to be equally obvious
that GA is essential to the functioning of this country.

Figure out how to do that first.

Jose
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Old January 30th 05, 05:03 PM
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Old idea.
This was similarly proposed 20 years ago.
With 300 aircraft all squawking, you could overwhelm the BWI ATC radar,
creating havoc with the system. You wouldn't even have to be in the TCA
(if you have to ask, look it up). The only solution ATC had was to
filter all 1200 code beacons, leaving the IFR traffic to scan for
themselves since the ATC radar would not depict the conflicts.

steve.t wrote:
Actually, since you brought this up, I want to vent my spleen.

How does GA actually do a political stunt that will get the attention
of the courts in a good way, or get political clout, that will stop
these TFRs?

Example: When the truck drivers of this country (or farmers) decide to
make a point, they drive into DC and bring it to a halt for a few hours
or day or so.

Would getting, say, 20 people with slow, but IFR certified a/c to all
file and fly into BWI, Dulles, and National (low pass, no landing) -
simultaneously, get their attention?

The answer is, YES. And GA could get banned. But I do like to fantasize
about doing that with 3 blimps at Ohare to make a point to Da Furher!

So, what GA function that if it were not done for a week would get
their attention? And it must be done in such a way that those who
refrain will not be out of pocket.

I'd love to work on this hot potato, because I honestly don't see AOPA
or EAA making it happen. So I think it must be a grass roots thing.

Later,
Steve.T
PP ASEL/Instrument
ps. NO, I do not have any Blimp time or hopes of any.


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Old January 31st 05, 10:26 AM
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On 30 Jan 2005 05:50:49 -0800, "
wrote:

I think you may be on to something with this "ultimate status symbol"
thing.


In that case, ridicule is the best weapon. See Hognose O'Brien's
commentary in today's Aeronews Propwash report:

http://www.aero-news.net/

Cut & paste & pass it along


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